Topic: New taper - question about 7xx

[kidtexas]

Very interesting.  I had a pair of Schoeps MK4's + an MK8 cap back in the day, but I ended up getting rid of them to fund the MKH 30/50/60 setup, which was better suited for video.  I've always wanted to round out the set with some 20's, etc, but never could afford it

I must admit that I'm not quite sensitive enough to pick up on the subtle flavors.  Maybe I've just never had a chance to A/B them, but the MKH's sound great, are quiet and rugged.  That was enough for me at the end of the day.  Oh yeah, and the crappy exchange rate was killing me on the Schoeps.

[boojum]

I am with Gunnar on the Schoeps CMC64/ORTF for a run and gun setup.  The venues around here are all bad.  And as it is not a recording session but a live gig I get to show up a little early, run up a mic stand, hook up the interconnects and hit the "on" button and then set levels on the fly.  I pretty much know about where they will be for the groups/rooms around here, though.

I am going to record a Bach chorale this fall and will want to use ORTF plus omni outriggers.  I will practice a bit first with the mixer and mics so I am not a complete plunk when I do the chorale.

As for conversions, yes, on the computer it makes no difference if it is an even half/double or some weird number.  It is all being done in binary anyway.  And binary only knows two states: off or on.

Cheers

[F.O.Bean]

I am with Gunnar on the Schoeps CMC64/ORTF for a run and gun setup.  The venues around here are all bad.  And as it is not a recording session but a live gig I get to show up a little early, run up a mic stand, hook up the interconnects and hit the "on" button and then set levels on the fly.  I pretty much know about where they will be for the groups/rooms around here, though.

I am going to record a Bach chorale this fall and will want to use ORTF plus omni outriggers.  I will practice a bit first with the mixer and mics so I am not a complete plunk when I do the chorale.

As for conversions, yes, on the computer it makes no difference if it is an even half/double or some weird number.  It is all being done in binary anyway.  And binary only knows two states: off or on.

Cheers

hey bro, when you say omni outriggers, what do you exactly mean? just omnis that are positioned wider, or 'outside' of the ORTF Cards so the ORTF Cards would be in the normal position in the 'middle', while the omnis are on each side of the ORTF bar further apart than the ORTF cards are

TIA Bro

Bean

[boojum]

Bean -

I will use the setup that John Eargle likes for classical: ORTF in the center and omnis flanked out at about 1/2 to 1/3 the distance from the ORTF mics to the edge of the sound field.  It gives some nice ambiance.  I tried it in a better-than-most but still a large phone booth venue last night.  I have not listened to the tracks yet.  I ran the four mics through a new Mackie 1402-VLZ3 and played with the ratio of center to flanked.  The ORTF was two Schoeps CMC64's and the flankers were DPA 4006TL's.  I have not ever tried this setup before and have to learn more about it.  I plan to get that chorale recital later this year and want to be able to set up more easily.

Learning, learning, learning.  Eargle's Handbook fo recording and Bartletts' Recording Music on Location are two winners.

Cheers

[F.O.Bean]

Bean -

I will use the setup that John Eargle likes for classical: ORTF in the center and omnis flanked out at about 1/2 to 1/3 the distance from the ORTF mics to the edge of the sound field.  It gives some nice ambiance.  I tried it in a better-than-most but still a large phone booth venue last night.  I have not listened to the tracks yet.  I ran the four mics through a new Mackie 1402-VLZ3 and played with the ratio of center to flanked.  The ORTF was two Schoeps CMC64's and the flankers were DPA 4006TL's.  I have not ever tried this setup before and have to learn more about it.  I plan to get that chorale recital later this year and want to be able to set up more easily.

Learning, learning, learning.  Eargle's Handbook fo recording and Bartletts' Recording Music on Location are two winners.

Cheers

awesome, thanks for the info. that should sound good considering your mic selection

So about your omni placement, do you mean your omnis were on the same stand as the schoeps, or where they actually by themselves in a different location on the floor 1/3 of the way from your mics to the speakers I am somewhat confused on their location

TIA,
Bean

[boojum]

Bean -

The ORTF was on its own vertical Shure mic bar in the center and the omnis were out on the sides on their own mic stands. I had them further than Eargle would have called for in consideration of the venue (small) and the musicians.  The mics were in a semi-circle and the band was in a corner.  It was as if the mics were on a arc drawn from the point where the two walls converged.  Think of HS plane geometry class.     I still have not listened to them.  I will this afternoon for sure.  I'm hopin.'

Cheers