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Re: What Naks to use for Dead & Co at Barton Hall?
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2023, 11:27:32 AM »
ricky d's rig at SPAC: Nak cm100's with cp4 shotgun capsules
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Re: What Naks to use for Dead & Co at Barton Hall?
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2023, 03:55:15 PM »
Nice!

The open Corona placed at just about the outer edge of spill-radius from the D5, cradled in the always questionably effective crotch of the stand as there is nowhere else better, implying just the right amount of throwing caution to the wind, just enhances the a trip down memory lane.

Anybody show up and ask for a patch from anyone's rig?

Any swirling drums and space through the trees at the back of the lawn?
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Re: What Naks to use for Dead & Co at Barton Hall?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2023, 10:51:36 AM »
Well just to follow up on the Barton Hall show.  Ended up with the Nak 100s with the CP4 capsules as I wasn't confident in my battery set up for the 300s.  I was located just behind the board on the left hand side.  Not ideal but it worked out ok.  The D5 worked great and I got a very decent cassette master!  I also ran a Zoom H4N for a digital "back up" and that worked out pretty well too. 

I've always kind of wondered...if you were to digitize the D5 source and compare to your digital "back up", might it be possible to isolate the delta for an EQ profile of what the tape is doing to the sound?  I always wished there was a Maxell XLII plugin I could throw on top of a source to sweeten it like the old days.
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Re: What Naks to use for Dead & Co at Barton Hall?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2023, 01:18:41 PM »
Well just to follow up on the Barton Hall show.  Ended up with the Nak 100s with the CP4 capsules as I wasn't confident in my battery set up for the 300s.  I was located just behind the board on the left hand side.  Not ideal but it worked out ok.  The D5 worked great and I got a very decent cassette master!  I also ran a Zoom H4N for a digital "back up" and that worked out pretty well too. 

I've always kind of wondered...if you were to digitize the D5 source and compare to your digital "back up", might it be possible to isolate the delta for an EQ profile of what the tape is doing to the sound?  I always wished there was a Maxell XLII plugin I could throw on top of a source to sweeten it like the old days.
interesting question. Not only what does tape itself shape the sound BUT the D5 also. If you have the scope and/or math skills I am betting this would be possible (to detect the frequency differences, if any) to analyze the digital master comparing it with the digital file from the analog master.
making a plugin after that would be cool. I guess it might be able to have strata such as Maxell XLII; TDK-MA, etc
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Re: What Naks to use for Dead & Co at Barton Hall?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2023, 11:49:21 PM »
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Re: What Naks to use for Dead & Co at Barton Hall?
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2023, 12:37:10 PM »
I've always kind of wondered...if you were to digitize the D5 source and compare to your digital "back up", might it be possible to isolate the delta for an EQ profile of what the tape is doing to the sound?  I always wished there was a Maxell XLII plugin I could throw on top of a source to sweeten it like the old days.

You could use a matching EQ - one that analyzes the frequency spectrum of one source and applies it to another, and get close frequency response-wise.  But frequency response probably varies somewhat with level, and there are other non-linear things going on such as tape and head compression/saturation, and potentially unwanted stuff like wow, flutter and noise. Could emulate that with some tape emulation plugin.  The question becomes how closely do you really want to emulate the behavior of the D5 - do you want a true warts and all emulation or just the aspects of it you find sonically attractive?

Somewhat OT- Similarly I've long thought someone should market a little device that vinyl audiophiles could use to play digital recordings through their turntable cartridges. A little output device that drives a phonograph pickup cartridge to emulate vinyl playback absent a physical record groove or disk.  Essentially a small low-power cutting head that wiggles a stylus rather than cutting a groove.  I suspect this would emulate much of what folks like about vinyl playback and the user can choose whichever cartridge they prefer.  Perhaps offer a couple versions, one a fully contained unit with signal in/out, another with just an input and the driving head as output, something you set on or attach to an existing turntable base for use with the same cartridge and arm for playing records.  Maybe such a thing exists already,.
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