Author Topic: remember the JB3? (Read 15039 times)

Karl · « **on:** December 06, 2011, 02:56:20 PM »

Nomad Jukebox 3!

I blew the dust off my old JB3 and and am doing some work with it. I no longer am running any machines using Windows XP, they are all Windows 7. Has anyone tried to get the JB3 to transfer using Windows 7? Does it work? Is it buggy?

Gil · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2011, 03:00:13 PM »

Quote from: Karl on December 06, 2011, 02:56:20 PM

Nomad Jukebox 3!

I blew the dust off my old JB3 and and am doing some work with it. I no longer am running any machines using Windows XP, they are all Windows 7. Has anyone tried to get the JB3 to transfer using Windows 7? Does it work? Is it buggy?

In my experience it doesn't work with 7. I haven't heard otherwise from anyone else. Perhaps you might have success in XP Virtual?

flipp · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2011, 03:08:10 PM »

Several have tried and I believe the answer is no.

If all you need to do is transfer the files, boot using any of many Live Linux distributions, plug in the JB3 and transfer the file to your hard drive then reboot and edit/master using whatever audio program you prefer.

Note: I still use XP for all my audio processing so have no direct experience using 7. For everything other than audio work I have several different Linux flavors on old boxes and laptops and everyone I have tried has recognized the JB3s. For full disclosure I will add it has been a least a couple of years since any of the JBs have left their drawer.

Karl · « **Reply #3 on:** December 06, 2011, 03:25:26 PM »

Thanks! I have an empty hard drive (small by today's standards) and will probably install Win 2000 on that on just run it from there.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2011, 10:57:32 AM »

I recorded HUNDREDS of sets/shows on my old JB3

SxPxDxCx · « **Reply #5 on:** December 07, 2011, 11:42:23 AM »

Quote from: F.O.Bean on December 07, 2011, 10:57:32 AM

I recorded HUNDREDS of sets/shows on my old JB3

Me too. The line in on mine broke earlier this year so I had no choice but to retire it.

allan · « **Reply #6 on:** December 07, 2011, 01:11:21 PM »

Im charging mine right now to possibly use tonight.

J.Maye · « **Reply #7 on:** December 07, 2011, 02:31:38 PM »

Im transfering all my old MD's usind a stand alone MD with an optical out>JB3. The auto sync feature is AWESOME for this task.

DMBprez · « **Reply #8 on:** December 07, 2011, 07:35:21 PM »

Try finding an older version of Nomad Explorer (that's the only way I got it to work on Win 7). It takes some messing around with.

heath · « **Reply #9 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:02:23 AM »

I've got one laying somewhere that I'd sell to anyone feeling nostalgic.

Gil · « **Reply #10 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:22:09 AM »

Quote from: heath on December 08, 2011, 09:02:23 AM

I've got one laying somewhere that I'd sell to anyone feeling nostalgic.

I'm having trouble giving one of mine away for shipping.

heath · « **Reply #11 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:45:33 AM »

that's kind of what i figured.

Gil · « **Reply #12 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:51:31 AM »

Yeah, I'm basically just using it in the mancave as a music player. Fortunately, my other one is being used for a massive transfer project, so that's cool.

heath · « **Reply #13 on:** December 08, 2011, 11:10:47 AM »

what are you transferring? ie--format?

Gil · « **Reply #14 on:** December 08, 2011, 12:04:16 PM »

Quote from: heath on December 08, 2011, 11:10:47 AM

what are you transferring? ie--format?

I'm not, I just pawned my gear off on a friend

But to answer your question, cassette>DAT(as ADC)>optical>JB3.

heath · « **Reply #15 on:** December 08, 2011, 03:02:59 PM »

sounds less than fun.

TaperBryan · « **Reply #16 on:** December 12, 2011, 09:51:43 PM »

what are jb3's going for these days? I've got one lying around I'd be looking to sell, too...

kfrinkle · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2011, 10:25:43 PM »

I ran across one of mine today whilst looking for something else. I remember the good old days of trying to crotch that thing, being a 6ft tall skinny bloke, it was not fun. I love me the pcm-m10.

Javier Cinakowski · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2011, 10:41:36 PM »

Heath, did you ever find a HiMD deck? If you did, I'd buy it from ya when you are done with it...

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #19 on:** December 12, 2011, 11:20:24 PM »

Quote from: kfrinkle on December 12, 2011, 10:25:43 PM

I ran across one of mine today whilst looking for something else. I remember the good old days of trying to crotch that thing, being a 6ft tall skinny bloke, it was not fun. I love me the pcm-m10.

Hehehe, CLASSIC!

MULETAPER · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2011, 01:57:02 PM »

Im ALWAYS looking for a JB3 have owned 5 down to one until I swap hardrives in the other to get 2 working units. if you have one your willing to part with that woks PM me... if the price is right Ill take it.

Brian E. · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2012, 12:32:38 PM »

F that thing.

I lost a couple recordings on it for zero reason. Plus the battery life was abysmal. So glad to be rid of it.

bdasilva · « **Reply #22 on:** January 21, 2012, 05:43:38 AM »

And... that damn line in jack breaking off... I fixed dozens of those... "for karma and shipping" Sure was good in its day though.

jagraham · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2012, 04:53:53 PM »

glad i retired mine last year. it had the problem where it would just freeze up during recording and the resulting file would have noise at that part of the recording then it wouldnt restart for the remainder of the show. really frustrating, i wouldnt even give the thing to someone much less sell it.

Humbug · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2012, 04:58:48 PM »

What do you mean remember the JB3? Been using mine since 2004. Last night I decided to get it signed by a couple of artists that I've been taping since then, Danny Bowes and Ben Matthews of the band Thunder, at their aftershow:

The metallic pen ran a bit, but you can still read the sigs!

Brian E. · « **Reply #25 on:** January 22, 2012, 11:31:18 PM »

that thing is a ticking timebomb, Humbug

newscane · « **Reply #26 on:** May 24, 2012, 12:27:20 AM »

Just noticed this thread... timely as I wait for my JB3 replacement to arrive

Been using one since I got into taping in 2007 (well, I taped a few shows with a borrowed rig in 2006... that was with a JB3 as well). It was working well, but transfers got to be too much of a bear. My primary computer these days is Win7, so I can't do a direct transfer. I was transferring to my XP netbook, where I'd process if I was on the road, or transfer (generally via thumb drive) to my PC to do post. Of course, that initial transfer just CRAWLS at USB 1.1 speeds (they dropped 2.0 when they added Firewire... makes sense, right?). I also lost part of a recording last year when I filled the hard drive, and lost part of my first real tape with the friend's JB3 when heat caused it to shut down (full disclosure: it was Tampa, in August, outdoors, and I made the mistake of wedging the JB3 into a bag).

All that said, it served me pretty well. Gonna hang onto it, I think, because there's no real way to get rid of it

Brian E. · « **Reply #27 on:** May 24, 2012, 12:39:10 AM »

sure there is. The car window on the interstate is an option.

runonce · « **Reply #28 on:** May 24, 2012, 08:50:36 AM »

Quote from: Brian Emerick on May 24, 2012, 12:39:10 AM

sure there is. The car window on the interstate is an option.

as you like - but JB3s fetch 100-200 bucks on ebay everyday...

OOK · « **Reply #29 on:** May 24, 2012, 09:24:13 AM »

Quote from: Brian Emerick on May 24, 2012, 12:39:10 AM

sure there is. The car window on the interstate is an option.

dude now that was funny!!!

heath · « **Reply #30 on:** May 24, 2012, 09:36:47 AM »

Quote from: runonce on May 24, 2012, 08:50:36 AM

Quote from: Brian Emerick on May 24, 2012, 12:39:10 AM
sure there is. The car window on the interstate is an option.

as you like - but JB3s fetch 100-200 bucks on ebay everyday...

For real? SHit--I should sell mine!

earmonger · « **Reply #31 on:** May 24, 2012, 10:16:16 AM »

$100+ for the 20GB on eBay. Not too shabby.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=creative+nomad++jukebox&_sadis=200&_ipg=200&_adv=1&_sop=12&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_osacat=0&_dmd=1&LH_Complete=1&_trksid=m570.l3201&_nkw=creative+nomad++jukebox+III&_sacat=0

crazifyngers · « **Reply #32 on:** May 24, 2012, 10:21:18 AM »

damn. I am moving across the country and throwing all kinds of stuff away. I didn't think it was worth anything and pitched mine last week

Gil · « **Reply #33 on:** May 24, 2012, 10:36:46 AM »

Quote from: earmonger on May 24, 2012, 10:16:16 AM

$100+ for the 20GB on eBay. Not too shabby.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=creative+nomad++jukebox&_sadis=200&_ipg=200&_adv=1&_sop=12&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_osacat=0&_dmd=1&LH_Complete=1&_trksid=m570.l3201&_nkw=creative+nomad++jukebox+III&_sacat=0

Perhaps I shouldn't have given away two of them

jtblackmore · « **Reply #34 on:** May 24, 2012, 11:20:14 AM »

Did they every add software to allow this unit to work with Windows 7? if so, let me know...

alpine85 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 24, 2012, 11:55:42 AM »

Wow.

This one sold for $200

Here's a NOS one that's at $167.50 and counting (with 3 days left!).

Unbelievable.

I still have 2 of 'em. Just used one back in February at a festival as a 3rd deck. Used the other one as a car MP3 player for a long time.

Oh - I believe the answer on the Win 7 question is no. I have an old laptop with a firewire jack and XP installed. JB3 transfers is pretty much the only thing I use it for.

George · « **Reply #36 on:** May 24, 2012, 02:23:51 PM »

These make wonderful sounding mp3 players...the headphone output on the njb3 is quite powerful.

yltfan · « **Reply #37 on:** May 24, 2012, 06:59:29 PM »

We need a plan to unload these beasts on Ebay, taking turns, not flooding the market. Kinda like the Tapersection version of OPEC. Who gets to go first?

spyder9 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 24, 2012, 08:40:19 PM »

I wonder if anyone modded one for an SSD drive. That would be cool. I bet it would improve the battery times.

alpine85 · « **Reply #39 on:** May 24, 2012, 08:43:24 PM »

Quote from: yltfan on May 24, 2012, 06:59:29 PM

We need a plan to unload these beasts on Ebay, taking turns, not flooding the market. Kinda like the Tapersection version of OPEC. Who gets to go first?

Ha! Yeah no kidding... You wanna go first?

I'm going to keep an eye on these prices... I really don't need 2 of them, but I'm a slut and a hoarder.

I may end up putting one up there for a BIN of 200 or something, just to see what happens.

alpine85 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:11:40 AM »

Just checked...

That "new old stock" one sold for $340 !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300712660712

Oh - on the SSD thing - I seem to remember someone saying it couldn't be done for some reason (something about IDE vs SATA, I think)

Brian E. · « **Reply #41 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:24:57 AM »

Quote from: alpine85 on May 29, 2012, 11:11:40 AM

Just checked...

That "new old stock" one sold for $340 !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300712660712

Oh - on the SSD thing - I seem to remember someone saying it couldn't be done for some reason (something about IDE vs SATA, I think)

people are crazy. why not just buy a high end zoom or R09 at that point? It's not like the JB3 has mics.

page · « **Reply #42 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:28:45 AM »

Quote from: Brian Emerick on May 29, 2012, 11:24:57 AM

Quote from: alpine85 on May 29, 2012, 11:11:40 AM
Just checked...

That "new old stock" one sold for $340 !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300712660712

Oh - on the SSD thing - I seem to remember someone saying it couldn't be done for some reason (something about IDE vs SATA, I think)

people are crazy. why not just buy a high end zoom or R09 at that point? It's not like the JB3 has mics.

Only logic I can think of is as a collectable or as an mp3 player. Nobody is buying it to record.

newscane · « **Reply #43 on:** June 04, 2012, 01:16:43 AM »

Quote from: Ben Turnbull on June 01, 2012, 01:23:52 AM

Just saw this thread... I did a three day folk fest a couple weeks ago. Ran a M-10 and two JB3s as backup 16bit recorders and was glad I did. Still the fastest tansfer over wire I've got... not sure how a MicroSD card would go in a card reader... need to get one and see I guess.

I'm also using one to go TT>LineOut>UA5/toslink>JB3 to digitize some LPs. Not the highest end solution but it works for me.

Both of mine eventually failed at the lineIn jack but Jackpine and I fixed them both. The combo jack is mounted via through the board solder points which eventually work loose causing static spikes that for months I thought was caused by faulty toslink cables. There's a thread on that here somewhere.

A lot of MicroSD cards I've seen for sale include an adapter to a full-size SD card...

gd420mj · « **Reply #44 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:22:45 AM »

I'm dusting mine off now to record this weekend. Got my UA-5 fixed (took forever to get pots from alps) and goona do the classic UA5>JB3. I got one with 20G and one with 80G. They always worked for me. Only had line in jack break once and easy fix. I use them occasionally to record optical out of mac when recording live streaming shows.

Batteries are on sale on ebay now for these for about $15 from hong kong.

One alternative to get into windows 7 might be to pull out the hard drive and put it into an enclosure. I've done this in the past. bit of pia but should work.

runonce · « **Reply #45 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:51:10 AM »

Quote from: gd420mj on June 07, 2012, 11:22:45 AM

One alternative to get into windows 7 might be to pull out the hard drive and put it into an enclosure. I've done this in the past. bit of pia but should work.

Pretty sure that doesnt work for the JB3

gd420mj · « **Reply #46 on:** June 07, 2012, 03:23:55 PM »

Quote from: runonce on June 07, 2012, 11:51:10 AM

Quote from: gd420mj on June 07, 2012, 11:22:45 AM

One alternative to get into windows 7 might be to pull out the hard drive and put it into an enclosure. I've done this in the past. bit of pia but should work.

Pretty sure that doesnt work for the JB3

Yea, I never actually tried it. Just thought it would work as a mass storage device.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #47 on:** June 08, 2012, 10:24:57 PM »

Quote from: newscane on June 04, 2012, 01:16:43 AM

Quote from: Ben Turnbull on June 01, 2012, 01:23:52 AM
Just saw this thread... I did a three day folk fest a couple weeks ago. Ran a M-10 and two JB3s as backup 16bit recorders and was glad I did. Still the fastest tansfer over wire I've got... not sure how a MicroSD card would go in a card reader... need to get one and see I guess.

I'm also using one to go TT>LineOut>UA5/toslink>JB3 to digitize some LPs. Not the highest end solution but it works for me.

Both of mine eventually failed at the lineIn jack but Jackpine and I fixed them both. The combo jack is mounted via through the board solder points which eventually work loose causing static spikes that for months I thought was caused by faulty toslink cables. There's a thread on that here somewhere.
A lot of MicroSD cards I've seen for sale include an adapter to a full-size SD card...

Yea, 99% of microSDHC Cards come with an SDHC Adapter so they are SUPER EASY to transfer with. I have a card reader and do my M10 transfer with a card reader[microsdhc card>PC] and its MUCH FASTER than just going M10>PC!

ellaguru · « **Reply #48 on:** August 09, 2012, 05:18:34 PM »

wow..i had no idea they were going for so much on flea bay...i still use mine to go from DAT > wav but id wager i could sell it and buy that...whatever model small tascam recorder that takes opti in and make a couple of bucks...

chris