Topic: help burning DVD-audio

[Jeff F]

What is a good program to grab that can burn DVD-audio discs?  I recently got a few sources that are 24-bit, but can't burn them with the software I have.  I downloaded a trial version of some Ulead burning tool, but it failed on the files I tried to add.

Thanks in advance for the help.

[Weazel]

wavelab 5.0. i got few others on my hd , will check it out.

[Chuck]

What is a good program to grab that can burn DVD-audio discs?  I recently got a few sources that are 24-bit, but can't burn them with the software I have.  I downloaded a trial version of some Ulead burning tool, but it failed on the files I tried to add.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Do you have a transport capable of supporting DVD-A?
A better option might be using Audio DVD Creator to make a DVD-V disc of just 24 bit audio.

[lds490]

What is a good program to grab that can burn DVD-audio discs?  I recently got a few sources that are 24-bit, but can't burn them with the software I have.  I downloaded a trial version of some Ulead burning tool, but it failed on the files I tried to add.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Do you have a transport capable of supporting DVD-A?
A better option might be using Audio DVD Creator to make a DVD-V disc of just 24 bit audio.

I think there is some general confusion of terms regarding DVD formats.  My understanding is that "DVD-A" refers to a specific format/encoding scheme, like SA-CD."  However, people often refer to DVD-A generically when they are talking about "standard" DVD-V files with music.  To avoid confusion, I usually refer to them as "music DVD" or "audio DVD."

You can download a trial version of Audio DVD Creator on the web.  I don't think it is fully functional. 

[Chuck]

What is a good program to grab that can burn DVD-audio discs?  I recently got a few sources that are 24-bit, but can't burn them with the software I have.  I downloaded a trial version of some Ulead burning tool, but it failed on the files I tried to add.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Do you have a transport capable of supporting DVD-A?
A better option might be using Audio DVD Creator to make a DVD-V disc of just 24 bit audio.

I think there is some general confusion of terms regarding DVD formats.  My understanding is that "DVD-A" refers to a specific format/encoding scheme, like SA-CD."  However, people often refer to DVD-A generically when they are talking about "standard" DVD-V files with music.  To avoid confusion, I usually refer to them as "music DVD" or "audio DVD."

You can download a trial version of Audio DVD Creator on the web.  I don't think it is fully functional. 

Yes, DVD-A is a specific format that is not supported by all DVD transports.
An Audio DVD created with Audio DVD Creator will play on most any DVD player.

[surf1div1]

I'm still not clear on the reference to the DVD program recommended above- (http://www.audio-dvd-creator.com/) while it states that it will do high quality, it limits it to 16/48  on one part of it's statment, and then a little later in the verbage it stated that it will do it. I believe the intent of the question on this post is what will retain the 24/96 khz quality to disc that you can play- a DVD so far is the only thing on  disc you can use as Audio CD are limited to 16 bit. I only know of one software program that will do it so far and that is the Bronze Discwelder -  http://www.discwelder.com/
I'm actually searching for a program that will allow me to both editing in the native format-24/96 with a wave editor and allow me to burn to DVD audio- by DVD Audio, allow me to play the burned copy on DVD. So, I apolize for mudding the waters, but any help is appreciated.

[Craig T]

audio-dvd-creator does in fact burn dvd's in video format with 24/48 or 24/96 lpcm audio.

There are 3 levels of DiscWelder products that will burn DVD-A's (bronze, steel, chrome?)

Wave Lab 5 is a great wav editor that will also author DVD-A's.  I don't believe it supports DVD-A playback.

I'm still not clear on the reference to the DVD program recommended above- (http://www.audio-dvd-creator.com/) while it states that it will do high quality, it limits it to 16/48  on one part of it's statment, and then a little later in the verbage it stated that it will do it. I believe the intent of the question on this post is what will retain the 24/96 khz quality to disc that you can play- a DVD so far is the only thing on  disc you can use as Audio CD are limited to 16 bit. I only know of one software program that will do it so far and that is the Bronze Discwelder -  http://www.discwelder.com/
I'm actually searching for a program that will allow me to both editing in the native format-24/96 with a wave editor and allow me to burn to DVD audio- by DVD Audio, allow me to play the burned copy on DVD. So, I apolize for mudding the waters, but any help is appreciated.

[dklein]

For DVD-Video you can choose 16 or 24 bit, 48 or 96 kHz and that's it.
Anything else gets resampled.  I've had some dialogue with the developer of the audio-dvd-creator software to ask about the possibility of writing a non-standard DVD-V
I want to try 24/44.1 - I know my player has no issue with doing 44.1 - just not sure what happens if you specify a DVD-V that is out of spec.

[stlram]

Your absolutely correct: DVD-A is 24/196. When people say DVD-A they really mean audio recorded on a DVD disc, i.e., 24/48-24/88 or 24/96, which is the audio portion of the DVD video. I hope folks get this cleared up and more acurately indicate what they are mastering.

I had a friend tell me on a few occassions that he is recording DVD-A. When he told me my jaw dropped and I really wanted his disc to hear what 24/196 would sound like. When I clarrify 24/196 he said, "No, it is 24/48". After clarrifying the difference with him he still occasionaly make a mistake when labeling his recordings.

[dmonterisi]

Your absolutely correct: DVD-A is 24/196. When people say DVD-A they really mean audio recorded on a DVD disc, i.e., 24/48-24/88 or 24/96, which is the audio portion of the DVD video. I hope folks get this cleared up and more acurately indicate what they are mastering.

I had a friend tell me on a few occassions that he is recording DVD-A. When he told me my jaw dropped and I really wanted his disc to hear what 24/196 would sound like. When I clarrify 24/196 he said, "No, it is 24/48". After clarrifying the difference with him he still occasionaly make a mistake when labeling his recordings.

dvd-a is not limited to 24/192.  dvd-a is a specific playback format that uses pcm audio at any range of bit depths and resolutions, not just 24/192 (there is no 24/196 by the way).

[stlram]

My mistake on the 196, too early in the morning and a slip of the keys. But I would agrue and so would, as far as I know, any manufacture and studio in the world. DVD-A is 192-24. Anything else is not DVD-A.

[dmonterisi]

My mistake on the 196, too early in the morning and a slip of the keys. But I would agrue and so would, as far as I know, any manufacture and studio in the world. DVD-A is 192-24. Anything else is not DVD-A.

well, i'm not sure what to say.  i guess you could argue that anything less is not taking full advantage of the dvd-a format.  maybe you need to explain it further as I may not be understanding what you are saying.  i've authored and purchased dvd-a's that are 24/96.  what do you then classify these as?  they are most definitely NOT video dvd's with an audio track, they can only be played on players that support dvd-a.  so i'm not sure what you mean by "anything else is not DVD-A".  please explain.

-damon

[Craig T]

My mistake on the 196, too early in the morning and a slip of the keys. But I would agrue and so would, as far as I know, any manufacture and studio in the world. DVD-A is 192-24. Anything else is not DVD-A.

DVD-A is a format that supports several different bit/sample rates in PCM or MLP, and there are certainly commercial DVD-A's out there that are 24/96, not 192 (Mark Knofler's "Shangri-La" comes to mind)

[stlram]

Hey Graig,

Get that turtable hooked up will ya!

I stand corrected and anyway here is what DVD-A will support.


Specification                DVD-Audio                                CD
 
Audio Forma                PCM                                        PCM
 
Disk Capacity               4.7Gb -Single layer
                                8.5Gb - Dual Layer
                     17Gb – Double Sided Dual Layer
                                                                               650Mb
 
Channels                    Up to 6                                     2 (stereo)
 
Frequency Response      0 - 96kHz (max)                        5 - 20kHz
 
Dynamic Range             144db                                     96db
 
Sampling Rate - 2 channel
                       44.1, 88.2, 176.4KHz or
                       48, 96, 192KHz
                                                                                44.1kHz
 
Sampling Rate - multichannel
                      44.1, 88.2KHz or
                      48, 96KHz
                                                                                 n/a
 
Sample Size (Quantization)
                       12, 16, 20, or 24 bits
                                                                                 16 bits
 
Maximum Data Rate
                      9.6 Mbps.                                              1.4Mbps
 

 

[stlram]

I thought I posted this but somehow it didn't make it.

The main reason DVD-A has been developed is to provide high resolution multi channel and 192/24 two channel recording. In two channel situations DVD-A is only at an advantage if it is recorded to 192/24. I wouldn't burn a 44/16 on DVD-A and consider it DVD-A recording. Sure DVD-A supports that format but is it really the sonic equal to 192/24 (rhetorical)

Again, I think it is important for folks to accurately discribe what they are burning and when someone states DVD-A in two channel and it is something less than 192/24 it can be misleading especially when it is 24/48, not that there is anything wrong with that but it is a far cry from what DVD-A was meant to support.