Author Topic: Wavelab gain application problem.. (Read 7445 times)

Ray76 · « **on:** September 13, 2005, 06:23:15 PM »

Ok...I have a wav file that is unbalanced...one channel is 4db off from the other. I decided to bring them both up to zero..they were way underrecorded...well I can easily apply gain to one channel..highlight..Process>apply gain..and it changes..after i analyzed it...it expressed that the new file was indeed approaching 0db..

this other channel..no matter how much I select it and add gain(or try to add gain) I still get the same readout of the analyzation every time. I dont know the exact number but i get -6.34 db is the average peak of the selection...so I added 4db...i get the same message...basically the gain cant be added to that channel...no matter how I try to do it...

Why is this??

teddy

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #1 on:** September 13, 2005, 06:40:33 PM »

amke sure youre applying gain to your peaks NOT your average(RMS) gain

Ray76 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 13, 2005, 07:07:26 PM »

Quote from: Bean on September 13, 2005, 06:40:33 PM

amke sure youre applying gain to your peaks NOT your average(RMS) gain

what do you mean?

momule · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2005, 10:59:13 PM »

yours look like this?
(notice one is Highlighted.)

Ray76 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2005, 11:59:02 PM »

Quote from: Momule on September 13, 2005, 10:59:13 PM

yours look like this?
(notice one is Highlighted.)

Yep.

Gordon · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2005, 12:41:11 AM »

not exactly the same but I ran into a strange issue woth this last week. I would highlight the channel I needed to check/raise the gain. would hit the get peak level. then when I set the gain and told it to raise it it would raise the channel that wasn't highlighted. did it over and over. so I then tried to highlight the wrong channel thinking it may raise the one I needed. it then raised the one that was highlighted ie the worng channel. no fucking idea why

Ray76 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 14, 2005, 12:42:59 AM »

Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 14, 2005, 12:41:11 AM

not exactly the same but I ran into a strange issue woth this last week. I would highlight the channel I needed to check/raise the gain. would hit the get peak level. then when I set the gain and told it to raise it it would raise the channel that wasn't highlighted. did it over and over. so I then tried to highlight the wrong channel thinking it may raise the one I needed. it then raised the one that was highlighted ie the worng channel. no fucking idea why

I ran into that too John..that exact problem...weird.

Gordon · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2005, 12:46:39 AM »

this has only happened with one file. I even tried others that night and they worked fine. it wasn't something I tpaed but something I ripped from a audio cd to use as a spice source.

kskreider · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2005, 01:55:12 AM »

My guess is that you both [coincidentally] thought that you had a channel highlighted and it was not, but the other one was. I know sometimes it is hard to tell as teh color is just the inverse of what it was. Just a guess.

But I digress, Teddy's original problem sounds awfully suspicious. Almost like a step is being forgotten, or maybe you are even highlighting the wrong channel?

Dang, I don't know.

What I usually do is close everything down, sleep on it, and wake up to find everything normal after a cup of strong coffee.

BTW, just highlight the file and hit "ctrl+G" to get to the gain window. That way you don't accidentally click in your project wondow and [un]highlight something.

Gordon · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2005, 02:34:03 AM »

Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 01:55:12 AM

My guess is that you both [coincidentally] thought that you had a channel highlighted and it was not, but the other one was. I know sometimes it is hard to tell as teh color is just the inverse of what it was. Just a guess.

nope. my wavs are light blue (default?) and it is very easy to see which channel is highlighted.

kskreider · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2005, 10:31:22 AM »

Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 14, 2005, 02:34:03 AM

Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 01:55:12 AM
My guess is that you both [coincidentally] thought that you had a channel highlighted and it was not, but the other one was. I know sometimes it is hard to tell as teh color is just the inverse of what it was. Just a guess.

nope. my wavs are light blue (default?) and it is very easy to see which channel is highlighted.

What version of the app are you two running anyway?

Ray76 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2005, 10:51:25 AM »

Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 10:31:22 AM

Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 14, 2005, 02:34:03 AM
Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 01:55:12 AM
My guess is that you both [coincidentally] thought that you had a channel highlighted and it was not, but the other one was. I know sometimes it is hard to tell as teh color is just the inverse of what it was. Just a guess.

nope. my wavs are light blue (default?) and it is very easy to see which channel is highlighted.

What version of the app are you two running anyway?

wavelab 5

kskreider · « **Reply #12 on:** September 14, 2005, 11:04:15 AM »

Quote from: BigRay on September 14, 2005, 10:51:25 AM

Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 14, 2005, 02:34:03 AM
Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 01:55:12 AM
My guess is that you both [coincidentally] thought that you had a channel highlighted and it was not, but the other one was. I know sometimes it is hard to tell as teh color is just the inverse of what it was. Just a guess.

nope. my wavs are light blue (default?) and it is very easy to see which channel is highlighted.

What version of the app are you two running anyway?

wavelab 5

Sorry, I should have been more clear Teddy. 5.what? 5.0? 5.01a? 5.01b? Maybe all you need is the newest version?

Ray76 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 14, 2005, 11:23:27 AM »

Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 11:04:15 AM

Quote from: BigRay on September 14, 2005, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 14, 2005, 02:34:03 AM
Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 01:55:12 AM
My guess is that you both [coincidentally] thought that you had a channel highlighted and it was not, but the other one was. I know sometimes it is hard to tell as teh color is just the inverse of what it was. Just a guess.

nope. my wavs are light blue (default?) and it is very easy to see which channel is highlighted.

What version of the app are you two running anyway?

wavelab 5

Sorry, I should have been more clear Teddy. 5.what? 5.0? 5.01a? 5.01b? Maybe all you need is the newest version?

oh sorry man. 5.0

kskreider · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2005, 11:27:52 AM »

Quote from: BigRay on September 14, 2005, 11:23:27 AM

Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: BigRay on September 14, 2005, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 14, 2005, 02:34:03 AM
Quote from: DarkStarJedi on September 14, 2005, 01:55:12 AM
My guess is that you both [coincidentally] thought that you had a channel highlighted and it was not, but the other one was. I know sometimes it is hard to tell as teh color is just the inverse of what it was. Just a guess.

nope. my wavs are light blue (default?) and it is very easy to see which channel is highlighted.

What version of the app are you two running anyway?

wavelab 5

Sorry, I should have been more clear Teddy. 5.what? 5.0? 5.01a? 5.01b? Maybe all you need is the newest version?

oh sorry man. 5.0

An upgrade may fix your problem. I use 5.01a and I think that there is even a 5.01b out now.

johnw · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2005, 11:38:20 AM »

Quote from: BigRay on September 14, 2005, 12:42:59 AM

Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 14, 2005, 12:41:11 AM
not exactly the same but I ran into a strange issue woth this last week. I would highlight the channel I needed to check/raise the gain. would hit the get peak level. then when I set the gain and told it to raise it it would raise the channel that wasn't highlighted. did it over and over. so I then tried to highlight the wrong channel thinking it may raise the one I needed. it then raised the one that was highlighted ie the worng channel. no fucking idea why

I ran into that too John..that exact problem...weird.

Me 3. I ended up using SF5 after trying to get it to raise the channel (I know I selected) for 20 minutes.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #16 on:** September 14, 2005, 12:14:01 PM »

right click and select the either left or right channel only

Ray76 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 14, 2005, 12:37:21 PM »

Quote from: Bean on September 14, 2005, 12:14:01 PM

right click and select the either left or right channel only

tried that.

momule · « **Reply #18 on:** September 14, 2005, 03:49:37 PM »

how about a small flac sample Ray?
Im guessing it has to be user error as Im running 5.00a and I have no prob's like this...
Im intrigued now..

Ray76 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 14, 2005, 04:30:24 PM »

Quote from: Momule on September 14, 2005, 03:49:37 PM

how about a small flac sample Ray?
Im guessing it has to be user error as Im running 5.00a and I have no prob's like this...
Im intrigued now..

Hey Nick.

I actually fixed it, so I dont have a sample but i had to go in...do an autosplit..."split stereo track into two mono tracks", open them up individually, and apply gain that way. it was weird...

momule · « **Reply #20 on:** September 14, 2005, 04:57:30 PM »

Just a quick ?. do you not save your master file ? Or do you apply effects to your master

just for future reference you may try raising the gain in another "effect".
such as use the Leveler effect and you can select each channel or both..

glad ya got it fixed.
Nick

Ray76 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 14, 2005, 05:12:51 PM »

Quote from: Momule on September 14, 2005, 04:57:30 PM

Just a quick ?. do you not save your master file ? Or do you apply effects to your master

just for future reference you may try raising the gain in another "effect".
such as use the Leveler effect and you can select each channel or both..

glad ya got it fixed.
Nick

I saved the master concert file..but this was seperate from that...this was soundcheck. thanks for your advice man. +T I appreciate you.

Gordon · « **Reply #22 on:** September 14, 2005, 10:10:20 PM »

Quote from: Bean on September 14, 2005, 12:14:01 PM

right click and select the either left or right channel only

that's how I did it

. I'm not that dumb

kskreider · « **Reply #23 on:** September 20, 2005, 04:54:34 PM »

Quote from: raoulduke on September 20, 2005, 03:15:44 PM

Quote from: Ray76 on September 13, 2005, 06:23:15 PM
Ok...I have a wav file that is unbalanced...one channel is 4db off from the other. I decided to bring them both up to zero..they were way
this other channel..no matter how much I select it and add gain(or try to add gain) I still get the same readout of the analyzation every time. I dont know the exact number but i get -6.34 db is the average peak of the selection...so I added 4db...i get the same message...basically the gain cant be added to that channel...no matter how I try to do it...

This happened to me last night too for the first time with WL 5.0. It has never happened before and I do know what I'm doing with WaveLab. I ended up adding gain with SoundForge 7.0.

Weird huh?

If you haven't already I would make sure to do two things. 1)upgrade to 5.01b and 2)use your software firewall to block it's internet access.

Gordon · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2005, 10:49:52 PM »

it seems to be a bug in 5.0 got the upgrade and all is well.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #25 on:** September 20, 2005, 11:14:34 PM »

Quote from: John Cocktolstoy on September 20, 2005, 10:49:52 PM

it seems to be a bug in 5.0 got the upgrade and all is well.

how much is the upgrade

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #26 on:** September 20, 2005, 11:30:33 PM »

the post above says that we should upgrade to 5.01b, that link you have is for 5.01a

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #27 on:** September 20, 2005, 11:32:13 PM »

also, where do i install the patch

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #28 on:** September 20, 2005, 11:56:33 PM »

+T tim, thanks my man!

Gordon · « **Reply #29 on:** September 21, 2005, 12:26:13 AM »

bean
PM sent

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