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let's say I am patching out of a dap1, and I go into the coax in on the odl and then optical out to my jb3, could i also give someone the coax out at the same time?, or would I need a coax spilitter before I go into the odl
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let's say I am patching out of a dap1, and I go into the coax in on the odl and then optical out to my jb3, could i also give someone the coax out at the same time?, or would I need a coax spilitter before I go into the odl
Yup, sure can.  You don't even interrupt the chain that way.
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i believe you need a splitter

you would have to run an optical in toget the coax out to work ;)
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i believe you need a splitter

you would have to run an optical in toget the coax out to work

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Doh!  Yes, Bean and Brian are correct. (Thanks for keeping me honest, guys.)  I was thinking that you were asking if you could go optical in and get both optical and coax out. (You can do that.)

However, if you go coax in, you get a solid optical out, but a weak coax signal out.  The weak coax signal is too weak to be properly detected by most decks.

This is one case where the CO2 has the ODL-276 beat.  With the CO2, you can go either coax or optical in and get both coax and optical out.  However, most people think that the CO2 is not bit-perfect, so it would be hard to get a spot in the patcher's daisy-chain.

Sorry about misleading you...  I hope it didn't cause you problems.
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youcan really go optical in>coax+optical out ??? thats news to me :)

never tried it, but the instructions say that you can do coax>optical AND optical>coax simultaneously, but you cant run optical>coax+optical, or coax>optical+coax ??? make sense ???

so you COULD NOT run a COAX in>optical+coax out like a splitter, you HAVE TO run a spliter before the coax input because you can ONLY pass an optical output that way ;)
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so could I get a coax splitter and slit the signal  between the source (lets say a da-p1) , and the odl-276, so that I could send one coax into the odl so I can then go into the jb3 and still have a coax out (the splitter) ,so I can let someone patch ???

does that make any sense

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OK, just for clarification, from one that has owned both units, and still owns the ODL-276:

The Midiman CO2 is a DFC (digital format convertor) WITH pass-thru capability. 

The ODL-276 is a DFC WITHOUT pass-thru capability.  It only converts one to the other.

Yes, the CO2 does have the 276 beat in this respect, but since my CO2 gave me drop out within the first 5 minutes of me using it, it was garbage.  The Midiman CO2 has been known to have problems related to dropped samples, etc.

In a situation where you need a coax pass-thru, run a coax splitter in front of the ODL, and run all the coax behind you from there.  Then run the other coax to your 276 and convert to your optical needs.

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so could I get a coax splitter and slit the signal between the source (lets say a da-p1) , and the odl-276, so that I could send one coax into the odl so I can then go into the jb3 and still have a coax out (the splitter) ,so I can let someone patch ???

does that make any sense



yes youcan and thats what id do :)
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In a situation where you need a coax pass-thru, run a coax splitter in front of the ODL, and run all the coax behind you from there.  Then run the other coax to your 276 and convert to your optical needs.
Terry

pulling a big old brain fart moment right now, but can you explain that statement for me, I am having a hard time picturing this. So lets say, I am patching from a da-p1 using a coax,,, that cable would then run >>>>>?????????? can finish this is statement through,,, with me being able to get to the ODL > jb3 and still be able to offer someone a dig coax out for patching?

thanks, I just want to know what other splitters or calbes I might need
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run a splitter before the hosa odl boxes that way youcan run coax to patchers
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youcan really go optical in>coax+optical out ??? thats news to me :)
Dang it, Bean! You're keeping me honest twice in one day!  I found out that my ODL-276 had a solder short between pins 9 and 10 of the hex inverter used in that design.  Now that I've cleared that solder short, the optical in no longer is transmitted on the optical out.  I've revised the schematic I drew up for the ODL-276 to show how it's designed to be built:
(You might need to refresh the page if you've looked at this schematic before on another thread.  I had it drawn wrong before today.)

Hopefully I can figure out how to modify it so that it can be used to go either coax in or optical in > both optical out and coax out at the same time. That way I can provide a coax pass through and send an optical tap to my NJB3, just like housermix wants to do.

Dang! The thing worked better for my purposes when it was still broken.  (Like I said on another thread, the workmanship on this thing was terrible.  There were lots of cold solder joints and they hadn't cleaned the flux off the board.)
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Oh yeah, +t to Bean and Brian for not letting me get away with spewing misinformation. :)
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will any coax splitter work, or does it need to be something specific? 
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Because its easier for me to draw an explanation that try and type an explanation:

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