Topic: V3 vs. Mini-me comparisons

[JeffK]

I think we're gonna try and do this same type of comparison soon as well.  Possibly for Kimock running onstage with Schoeps 4V's or 21's > splitter > V3 + MME.

[grider]

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my feelings exactly, Jamie, and i don't know WHY this is the case?  regardless if you run one of these boxes as a standalone, (i don't, i run MP-2 in front of my Mme), i feel the best way to compare these units is to run them head to head w/ like mics.  not 'analog out from the V3 to a Mme'.  <<

i don't have another set of 4022s....

i may try the y cable from mics to both units, with pnahtom on both (like marc did) but i haven't yet....

well I think it was Brian Skalinder that suggested you can buy XLR cable splitters, so you can run one set of mics but split the signal for each channel into two feeds, so with this cable splitter you could run one set of mics but divide the signals in two, and run one set of signals (for the right and left channels) into the V3 and one set of signals into the MiniMe, and make two separate recordings from the same set of mics, and do so simultaneously, that would be a true comparison indeed

[Chuck]

Anyone have a link to these comparisons or a better one?

Can't seem to find them.  Thanks!

I'd like to hear a true comparison like this also.

[JAH]

We did a comparison of V3/Mini Me as standalone units by using MBHO 603's with a Y-Cable to each unit and each unit to its own recorder.  

The Y cable is the way to go...I built mine for B-a-roo 2 years ago when I did V3/MMe using AKG 414's.....Also have done the V3>mme w/ digital outs on both for some Dead using 140's.
In all cases we more than 4 of us preferred the MME over the V3 (let the healing begin ;-) )...most folks here preferr the V3...it's all good.  I think the MMe allows the signal to breath.  But man I hate their footprint.
Have fun w/ yours...if you need a y cable, Oade sell 'em. ( I have since taken mine apart, else I'd loan mine to ya).

peace
jah

[Chuck]

In all cases we more than 4 of us preferred the MME over the V3

This is what I'd expect to find...

[creekfreak]

I think what they meant to say is that 4 out of 5 people preferred the mini-me for making smoke over the V3

[JAH]

I think what they meant to say is that 4 out of 5 people preferred the mini-me for making smoke over the V3

NOT EVEN ;-)
 as a owner of a mme did you ever smoke yours?  ;-)  not me nor my buddy..although I did see one go up in smoke due to a bad power in plug that was not an apogee approve plug.
The mme gets a bad rap but I bought mine used...added springs, from apogee, to tighten up the gain knobs and replaced the spdif jack as it is a poor piece....the only bitch I have about the mme is the footprint and the line in gain adjustments...definately like the sound over the V3 (imho)...not much I can do about the footprint but I'm searching for a knob that will slide over the pot trims...then I'll be a happy man.

[marc0789]

what jah said. If I had to choose, I'd pick the mme. however, I find that the low end is a bit loose, and overall the soundstage is a little filmy, for lack of a better term. will work in a pinch, but I'd much prefer pre of your choice other than mp-2>mme. and I exclude the mp-2 only because it sounds so much like the mme pre, imo.

however, imo the v3 a/d is so piss poor that it takes a crap on the v2 legacy. To my ears, a v3 tape sounds nothing like a v2>1k tape, and to me, that's the gold standard that Grace would have to live up to to make the v3 worthwhile, and just didn't happen.

[creekfreak]

I think what they meant to say is that 4 out of 5 people preferred the mini-me for making smoke over the V3

NOT EVEN ;-)
 as a owner of a mme did you ever smoke yours?  ;-)  not me nor my buddy..although I did see one go up in smoke due to a bad power in plug that was not an apogee approve plug.
The mme gets a bad rap but I bought mine used...added springs, from apogee, to tighten up the gain knobs and replaced the spdif jack as it is a poor piece....the only bitch I have about the mme is the footprint and the line in gain adjustments...definately like the sound over the V3 (imho)...not much I can do about the footprint but I'm searching for a knob that will slide over the pot trims...then I'll be a happy man.

hehe, I ran the mini-me for a little while and I think which unit is better is strictly a function of the mics you use and the ears you have, I did have to send mine back for stripped screws which pissed me off and I find the over contruction of the unit to be ass, but I will say it was a champ at creating a killer 3d soundstage, but I didn't much care of the sound of the schoeps with it...though I wouldn't mind trying one with my TL's. Overall I have no issue with the sound of a V3 and prefer it with my mk41's over the mini-me. To each his own, I say use what you like

[JAH]

what jah said. If I had to choose, I'd pick the mme. however, I find that the low end is a bit loose, and overall the soundstage is a little filmy, for lack of a better term.

yup...that's why I have the 148 

hehe, I ran the mini-me for a little while and I think which unit is better is strictly a function of the mics you use and the ears you have, ....To each his own, I say use what you like

I ran AKG 414's, KM140's, mk41's and 480's  and totally agree on your last sentence   only speaking from my experiences.

peace
jah