> Worst room I record in every year needs shotguns to tame the room and the drunks...
I hope you mean shotgun microphones, not actual shotguns. Although with some rooms and some drunks, I could maybe understand wanting to use the real thing.
99% of the time I record live music that is unamplified. Whenever I can, I place my mikes high up and aim them downward at the performers. That way the rear lobes of supercardioids are pointing into the air in the back of the hall, where they pick up long-delayed reverberant sound from the far corners of the room. That's often a real plus for the recording.
But for me the main benefits of using either the 41 or 41 V, compared to a standard cardioid, are (a) the greater sensitivity to different pickup angles, i.e. a more detailed stereo "soundstage" as the audiophiles call it, and (b) better consistency of sound quality between on-axis and off-axis pickup, particularly at the both ends of the frequency range.
People who record live performances often don't seem to realize that generally, they are recording much more off-axis sound than on-axis sound. Your microphones would have to be remarkably close to the sound sources, and aimed directly at them, for that NOT to be so.
--best regards