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Which setup?
« on: December 12, 2005, 11:29:33 AM »
 I am recording band sessions with a DA-P1 and i need a setup that will not overlaod. I think I need to go line in with phantom power on the mics.
   spending about £350 ($700)-
  do you think AKG c391's or SP C4's ---> PS2 ---> DA-P1 would be ay good -
 what would be your suggestions if the budget was $1200?
 

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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2005, 11:43:57 AM »
ADK TLs>>>v2>>>silver cables DAP1

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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2005, 11:45:23 AM »
No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02

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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2005, 11:47:30 AM »
No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02



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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2005, 12:18:11 PM »
No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02


but Nick, to run line in; to use the RCA inputs - you need a seperate external phantom power unit.
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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2005, 01:42:35 PM »
No need for the PS2, as the DAP1 provides phantom power.

Also, running line in you can't use phantom - it'll have to be mic in.

For $700 I'd grab a pair of ADK TLs and run them straight into the DAP1.

Just my $.02


but Nick, to run line in; to use the RCA inputs - you need a seperate external phantom power unit.
  thanks for your contributions.

Right, which is why I said you'd wanna run mic in. The pre/AD on the DAP1 is actually pretty nice. Strictly for band practices, I'd keep your costs down, just buy mics, and use the DAP1 for everything else.
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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2005, 02:23:28 PM »
 the trouble is - the levels on mic in are too high - it clips like mad.

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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2005, 02:25:40 PM »
if it overloads, you can use the -20db pad as well ;)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2005, 02:26:03 PM »
or get line transformers :)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2005, 03:30:02 PM »
I put the 20 dB pad on, but there must be a way of doing it without having to, I've think the limiter upsets the signal path in some ways - it can lead to more static type distortion at non-clip levels can't it?
 Are the line transformers readily available?
 who makes them, are they the Hosa ones?

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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2005, 03:38:32 PM »
the hosa ones i have seen online look ROCK SOLID FWIW
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2005, 03:41:17 PM »
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2005, 03:56:53 PM »
 thanks for the link Bean.
  so the transformers are to heat up the signal - to be able to go line in - I've got XLR's and I need to go into the rca phono sockets - that would be XLR mic lead termination > transformers > rca line inputs.
  so the MIT-435 - since I have RCA adaptors for 1/4 inch jack leads.
 
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Re: Which setup?
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2005, 03:59:38 PM »
cant you use that attenuator i linked you to go mic>attenuator>xlr input on the dap1, I believe the line in is active in either the rca's or the xlr's, but I havent used the dap1 in AWHILE

I always thought you could just run xlr in and switch the lever on top to the 'line' posistion ???
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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http://www.mediafire.com/folder/j9eu80jpuaubz/Recordings

 

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