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DAT recorder ?
« on: March 18, 2012, 05:14:47 AM »
I wanna buy me a DAT recorder again since my old Casio DA 1 broke down.
I got a Zoom H4n, but thisone sounds bad compared to the Casio.
I know many people will say DAT is old and out :)
I ask anyway :)
Which one should i buy ?
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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 02:27:18 PM »
portable or component?  If portable how small?

Portable:
 - HHb Portadat (large)
 - Fostex PD-4 (large)
 - Sony M1 or D100 (small)

Component:
 - Sony PCM-2600/2800
 - Sony PCM-R500/R700


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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 02:49:58 PM »
If you don't like them Zoom, don't let that fool you into thinking that all modern decks are like that. (They aren't.)

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 02:52:57 PM »
If you want a replacement - just buy a Sony PCM-M10
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 03:12:08 PM »
If you want a replacement - just buy a Sony PCM-M10
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 05:04:59 PM »
Wow, I used to have a Casio like that - I'd completely forgotten about it.  I wonder what happened to it?!  Note that it's only a 15 bit machine so it's hard to understand why the OP prefers the sound compared to a modern solid state 24 bit-capable recorder, but I guess it's a personal thing.

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 05:25:32 PM »
B&K 4035>Sony PCM D100

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 05:30:55 PM »
^^  That is the problem the Zoom recorders suck!! Grab a M10, which is a better move than going back to DAT. 
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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 05:55:26 PM »
Thanks H2o :)
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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 07:18:42 AM »
Zoom driving people back to DAT.  :(

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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2012, 08:12:29 AM »
Zoom driving people back to DAT.  :(

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders.  :yack:
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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2012, 12:06:54 PM »
Zoom driving people back to DAT.  :(

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders.  :yack:

I dunno about that.  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=153859.0

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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 07:26:14 AM »
How good is the Sony 2000 ES DAT ?
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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2012, 08:49:26 AM »
Zoom driving people back to DAT.  :(

DAT gives you a so much "warmer" digital recording than today's recorders.  :yack:

For someone who feels that way, I would suggest getting a modern recorder with an Oade or Busman warm mod (or using a preamp that produces a warmer sound).

I had so much trouble with my Sony D100 that I stopped using it in favor of my Sharp Mini-Disc until I got a modern digital recorder. I only recorded a handful of times a year and my D100 needed to go to Pro Digital every 2 years or so for $200 worth of repairs to get rid of drop outs. Paul said there are little plastic gears that can break even when the machine is not being used much.

Now you can buy a great recorder for $200 that hardly ever needs repairs. Plus it's great to be able to quickly upload your recordings to your computer & not to have to keep DAT tapes in stock.

Zoom driving people back to DAT.  :(

IMO, Zoom blows!
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Re: DAT recorder ?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 08:54:25 AM »
How good is the Sony 2000 ES DAT ?

I am sure it is a good DAT but IMO not worth $400-1000 people want to pay for it.  From what I have read it is the first deck sony made with SBM.

There are many more modern Sony decks that are probably just as good sound wise, are built as well or better, and much less complex in design (easier to fix).  Such as the ones I mentioned above (Sony PCM 2600/2800, PCM R500/R700, and additionally DTC-A8/A9).  All these decks can be found in the $75-150 range except the R700.

A better series of Sony DATs are the PCM 70xx series although I would only suggest buying the PCM-7040 (if 32Khz is not important) or PCM-7010.
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