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Carried it around in a nice padded aluminum flight case...

This JB3 is locked up...it wont get past the "Creative Labs" boot screen.

Since this occured...sometimes the screen will turn all "black"...sometimes it will just show the Creative Boot screen...

I've tried most of the trouble shooting and have read serveral FAQ's...no luck...

Anyone else have similar issues.???

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2004, 10:08:32 AM »
bro, find a paperclip, hit the reset hole on the bottom of the jb3 w/ it, all will be phine, trust me!!
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2004, 10:09:23 AM »
and +T for coming to ts.com!
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2004, 10:25:19 AM »
Ha...just got the thing out and now...it works FINE...WTF...???

I've read about the heat issues...and it was hot Sat...but the thing was never in direct sun...and the symptoms did not match any that I saw mentioned in the "Heat and Roo" thread...

I even took an Ice pack and put it under my JB3 (it was mostly soft/melted...covered with towel)

I even drove home Saturday and tried to run it at home...same lock up...

It might also be worth noting that the backlight would not come on when the bootscreen froze...

For some reason, I'm suspicous of the power supply...

SIDE BAR: the Creative Power supply will also work just fine with a Sony D7/8!!! (which I was forced to use this weekend)

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2004, 10:53:53 AM »
id keep a paperclip in your taping bag if it were me, ive done hundreds of dat transfers onto the jb3 plus all the recordings ive done w/ it, it just likes to lock up sometimes, its kinda like a woman ;)

id do a reset now w/ one, it wont erase anything!
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2004, 11:14:59 AM »
Actually - when I ran home from the gig on Saturday(to get my DAT)...I DID hit the reset...that seemed to have no effect whatsoever...

An hints on how to do a proper reset...? I think you are supposed to hold down the "Stop" button...release and hit "Play"?

I was in a hurry, so maybe I missed something in the FAQ...

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2004, 02:35:09 PM »
For some reason, I'm suspicous of the power supply...


I think that may be why it was acting weird. My JB3 did the same thing here at home when I plugged in the wrong AC adapter to it. Haven't had an issue with it otherwise, so something wrong with your power supply makes sense to me.

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2004, 07:56:54 PM »
to reset, hold down the stop button, while holding it in hit reset, as soon as a screen comes on, release stop and hit play ONCE!

do a disc cleanup and a reboot and that may werk, once all of your music is off of it too, do a reformat!!!

this really should solve your problems!!!

my jb3 froze up to where a reformat wouldnt turn it over, but i did a disc cleanup and she fired right up :)
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2004, 08:17:35 AM »
Pretty sure thats what I was doing...it would just stay stuck on the boot screen...the backlight never comes on.

UPDATE:

Mine seems INCREDIBLY heat sensitive...I put the Jb3 (in its flight case) in my car...the car was hot from sitting in the sun...and I did run back in the house once...so it couldn't have been in the car more than 10 minutes before I left for a 1 hour air-conditioned ride to a friends house...when I arrive...take the case in...the JB3 wont start...wont get past the boot screen...let it sit for 30-40 minutes in his air conditioned basement...finally it works.

The unit never feels warm...I havent even used the batteries yet...I figure they must generate some heat...

I've seen at STAPLES some "Laptop Cooling Mats" that might be handy for JB3 users...they look like a thick slice of swiss cheese...and would likely run off AC...I'll check them out when I go to town next. I would even consider drilling some holes in my unit if it would bring it up to DAT-like reliability...

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2004, 10:01:20 AM »
Yes the JB3 is heat sensitive, but yours sounds a bit extreme..mind you it never gets that hot here in the UK!

The couple of times its shut down on me its been buried deep in my jacket pocket (with the pleatherette cover on) and the JB3 felt pretty hot. Since then I take it out a fair bit while recording to get some air to it.

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2004, 05:34:45 PM »
yeah, so far so good on my end, its def been up to dat reliability for me at least :)
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2004, 06:17:14 PM »
I wouldn't say DAT reliability on this end, but the lack of media and the quick transfers far outweigh the need to "baby" the JB3 a little.
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2004, 06:20:32 PM »
Humppphhh....Looking forward to a chilly winter in the Northeast... :P

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2004, 06:23:30 PM »
I'm intrigued by that "cooling pad" you were talking about from staples...depending on the power source, this might just solve the problem of having to keep the Jebbie (my own name for my unit....I just made it up right now) out in the open during operation......?


EDIT: Sorry...this was in reference to another post...I'm off to take my meds.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2004, 06:25:19 PM by Tony B »
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2004, 09:43:07 PM »
Something of interest for JB3 owners....

Antec Notebook Cooler

Protect your valuable investment and reduce heat related instability.

USB powered with pass through connector included - draw power from any USB port without losing use of the port for another device
No batteries or power adapter needed
Double ball-bearing fans for reliability
Aluminum surface helps conduct heat away from laptop
Fans draw cool air in and exhaust hot air out

At STAPLES (if this URL doesnt work...just search thier site)

http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=554813&bcFlag=True&bcSCatId=3&bcSCatName=Technology&bcCatId=6&bcCatName=Computer+Accessories&bcDeptId=401&bcDeptName=Notebook++Accessories&bcClassId=142670&bcClassName=Notebook+Coolers+and+Pads

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2004, 11:00:41 PM »
hmmm, usb powered, that sux :'(
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2005, 03:05:34 PM »
ok mine does the same thing, the second i plug it in to charge for the first time, the Creative Labs power up screen just stays ther ith no backlight, HELP

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2005, 04:38:49 PM »
get out paperclip, bend it so one end is straight, insert into little hole on bottom of JB3, go tape a show...........
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2005, 04:45:04 PM »
that doesnt work dude, i tried it

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2005, 04:50:13 PM »
just the backlight is gone ???

so what, just carry a nice little flashlight ;)
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2005, 05:07:51 PM »
huh no... the startup screen freezes when i try to charge it..

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2005, 05:23:03 PM »
ok mine does the same thing, the second i plug it in to charge for the first time, the Creative Labs power up screen just stays ther ith no backlight, HELP

Will it come on without the battery inserted?

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2005, 07:52:05 PM »
yes, the same BS happens

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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2005, 10:19:51 AM »
if you have tried all the usual stuff you might want to contact creative tech support and make sure you get a trouble call number before the 30 days is up......
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2005, 02:43:02 PM »
or try to 'reload your OS'
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Re: Refurbished JB3: broken after 2 uses...less than 8 hours use...
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2005, 06:33:59 PM »
whats that?

 

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