Topic: advice for mics which make you feel the energy of a concert!

[natty jah]

Hello everybody

I dont speak english very well but i'll try to be as clear as possible.
In fact i have the ecm-719 sony microphone which i know is quite shit for many of you!!
i know the sound is not very good, but i listened some recordings with better mics which have a much clearer sound and i dont feel the energy of the shows as much as i do with my mics... but i want new ones because i would like some clearer sound.
i have a mz-nh700 hi-md and my question is:
does some microphones (i cant spend much than 100 dollars) have quite the same "identity" as these ecm-719 but with a clearer sound...
also i would like, if possible, micros which dont need bass rolloff and all these things.

sorry, i am not very clear, but if you have any advice for me, please tell, i would love it

thank you for reading!
Ludovic

[phatDats4u]

Once you get into high end mics it's more about where you want the presence boost (if any).

Schoeps: Full, tail ended sound

AKG: Bright top end

[china_rider]

Agreed.... I think your best bet is to go to the archive and listen to a bunch of different sources and see what you like best.

To me Schoeps and AKGs both sound great but totally different.

When I hear Schoeps in general they are a bit colored but make the show sound great and often sound more warm.

AKGs to my ears do have a bright sound but smooth high end and a kick ass low frequency reproducton. But seem to produce the shows more accurately as to how it actually sounded (in general.)  I've found a very nice mix of 480s + A51TLs -> Busman Hybrid R4 that seem to reproduce the actual show very well to my ears/memory.  Since I've started using the combo I have had a few email me saying that the recordings actually sound better than they remembered the show.  The great thing is that with the R4 you can record the 2 different sets of mics separately so if you don't like the mix afterwards when you mix it you can grab your favorite 2 chan source.

[natty jah]

Thanks to both of you!!
not sure what you mean with the word "end" (it doesnt seem to have the same meaning as "the end" in a movie lol)
anyway, i went to the archive section but i havent found a place where to listen to this bunch of different sources... so if somebody could tell me the link where i can go that would be great!!

thanks again!
++

[natty jah]

Thank you Moke!
i can spend about 100 dollars
but, if there is "the MIC of the century" (for my wich i mean) i can spend more lol

edit: well, i dont really understand how this archive website works...
i know shn, flac, torrent etc,but since i have some downloading problems, are there in this site some mp3 samples with the gear lineage to browse easily?

[natty jah]

Thanks again Moke!

Thanks for the link of church audio, but in the picture there is a big thing (is this the preamp) which seems t be quite heavy!
and i would like not to have such a big thing in my bag/pocket... well perhaps i am too much naive but i d'like to have a very "not heavy" gear, particularly for the summer festivals...    so is this thing necessary when you use such microphones?

[natty jah]

ok!
i would like to hear the difference with and without this power box because i am not a "hardcore quality sound sound" (and specialist too!)
i just want a slistenable memory to share andfor me which is listenable and cool to listen, thats why i wanted a new mic because the ecm-719 are not that clear despite , as i said, in my opinion they make you really feel the power/energy of the show... perhaps it is just because they are "bad" and i just like "bad" mics...well... i dont know lol but i also like very good mics but in my opinion, you almost listen to a studio album when you have very good mics! thats why i am not really interested in it though the sound is incredible!
also, another thing, i d like to have a mic which doesnt make the difference if you dance or not!
with the ecm-719 i went to some concerts and it ididnt make the difference when i was dancing or not when you listen to th recording afterwrds...
and Moke, the mics of Chris are 149 dollars, and only for canada and U.S! so.... though i pmed him to have some info!

[phatDats4u]

you'll want a battery box- they will add to your sound and give you more headroom to work with- as these rigs tend to take on high SPL

[Church-Audio]

ok!
i would like to hear the difference with and without this power box because i am not a "hardcore quality sound sound" (and specialist too!)
i just want a slistenable memory to share andfor me which is listenable and cool to listen, thats why i wanted a new mic because the ecm-719 are not that clear despite , as i said, in my opinion they make you really feel the power/energy of the show... perhaps it is just because they are "bad" and i just like "bad" mics...well... i dont know lol but i also like very good mics but in my opinion, you almost listen to a studio album when you have very good mics! thats why i am not really interested in it though the sound is incredible!
also, another thing, i d like to have a mic which doesnt make the difference if you dance or not!
with the ecm-719 i went to some concerts and it ididnt make the difference when i was dancing or not when you listen to th recording afterwrds...
and Moke, the mics of Chris are 149 dollars, and only for canada and U.S! so.... though i pmed him to have some info!

 Tell you what $89.99 for my Cardioids and $20.00 for my battery box because I am in a good mood. Thats all you need to record concerts and have good sound quality and I do ship to your location please tell me where you are.

Chris Church

[leehookem]

Damn Chris, nice.

[Josephine]

ok!
i would like to hear the difference with and without this power box because i am not a "hardcore quality sound sound" (and specialist too!)
i just want a slistenable memory to share andfor me which is listenable and cool to listen, thats why i wanted a new mic because the ecm-719 are not that clear despite , as i said, in my opinion they make you really feel the power/energy of the show... perhaps it is just because they are "bad" and i just like "bad" mics...well... i dont know lol but i also like very good mics but in my opinion, you almost listen to a studio album when you have very good mics! thats why i am not really interested in it though the sound is incredible!
also, another thing, i d like to have a mic which doesnt make the difference if you dance or not!
with the ecm-719 i went to some concerts and it ididnt make the difference when i was dancing or not when you listen to th recording afterwrds...
and Moke, the mics of Chris are 149 dollars, and only for canada and U.S! so.... though i pmed him to have some info!

 Tell you what $89.99 for my Cardioids and $20.00 for my battery box because I am in a good mood. Thats all you need to record concerts and have good sound quality and I do ship to your location please tell me where you are.

Chris Church

+t 

[natty jah]

yes! nice offer!
Chris, i just pmed you

[rowjimmytour]

ok!
i would like to hear the difference with and without this power box because i am not a "hardcore quality sound sound" (and specialist too!)
i just want a slistenable memory to share andfor me which is listenable and cool to listen, thats why i wanted a new mic because the ecm-719 are not that clear despite , as i said, in my opinion they make you really feel the power/energy of the show... perhaps it is just because they are "bad" and i just like "bad" mics...well... i dont know lol but i also like very good mics but in my opinion, you almost listen to a studio album when you have very good mics! thats why i am not really interested in it though the sound is incredible!
also, another thing, i d like to have a mic which doesnt make the difference if you dance or not!
with the ecm-719 i went to some concerts and it ididnt make the difference when i was dancing or not when you listen to th recording afterwrds...
and Moke, the mics of Chris are 149 dollars, and only for canada and U.S! so.... though i pmed him to have some info!

 Tell you what $89.99 for my Cardioids and $20.00 for my battery box because I am in a good mood. Thats all you need to record concerts and have good sound quality and I do ship to your location please tell me where you are.

Chris Church

+t Chris way to show some international love!!! Mabey Bush could learn a thing or two fro ya on how to take care of business.
Peace

[stirinthesauce]

+t Chris for the kind offer to our fellow taper

[Church-Audio]

ok!
i would like to hear the difference with and without this power box because i am not a "hardcore quality sound sound" (and specialist too!)
i just want a slistenable memory to share andfor me which is listenable and cool to listen, thats why i wanted a new mic because the ecm-719 are not that clear despite , as i said, in my opinion they make you really feel the power/energy of the show... perhaps it is just because they are "bad" and i just like "bad" mics...well... i dont know lol but i also like very good mics but in my opinion, you almost listen to a studio album when you have very good mics! thats why i am not really interested in it though the sound is incredible!
also, another thing, i d like to have a mic which doesnt make the difference if you dance or not!
with the ecm-719 i went to some concerts and it ididnt make the difference when i was dancing or not when you listen to th recording afterwrds...
and Moke, the mics of Chris are 149 dollars, and only for canada and U.S! so.... though i pmed him to have some info!

 Tell you what $89.99 for my Cardioids and $20.00 for my battery box because I am in a good mood. Thats all you need to record concerts and have good sound quality and I do ship to your location please tell me where you are.

Chris Church

+t Chris way to show some international love!!! Mabey Bush could learn a thing or two fro ya on how to take care of business.
Peace

I think Shrub could learn a lot from a total moron  never mind me or you