Topic: 744T Questions

[cfox]

The proper technique is to render the channels 1 & 2 into one stereo file then repeat for 3 &4, then combine stereo 1 and stereo 2. that seems like a pita. How is my panning the stereo channels in mono mode different then what I was told to do? somebody please help.

This is how we all do the 4ch mono on the 744t, not sure about all this panning stuff you are referring to...once you setup your montagues in wavelab, insert mono 1&2, render to stereo. Insert mono 3&4 render to stereo.  Combine 1&2 stereo, 3&4 stereo, render off gain, adjust time delay if needed, render out to 2 ch stereo.  Yes it is more work...

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

I just do polywav.  So it comes in as 1 stereo file and 2 mono. (usually the soundboard).  Assign left and right to the monos then save each file separately.  Then remaster each stereo set and mix.  Only difference between this and the R4 is the r4 did 2 stereo tracks.  Always wished SD would do that too.

[NOLAfishwater]

I just do polywav.  So it comes in as 1 stereo file and 2 mono. (usually the soundboard).  Assign left and right to the monos then save each file separately.  Then remaster each stereo set and mix.  Only difference between this and the R4 is the r4 did 2 stereo tracks.  Always wished SD would do that too.

what is the purpose of saving them as mono files that have been assigned to left or right? why not save them as stereo pair? someone mentioned there is a tutorial floating around. can someone please share this with me. Thanks.

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

No I meant I save each pair as a stereo pair.  Not the mono's.  The original files get thrown on a dvd.  All others on mirrored drives.  Do you still need me to call you?  I don't know anything about the tutorial.

[NOLAfishwater]

I just do polywav.  So it comes in as 1 stereo file and 2 mono. (usually the soundboard).  Assign left and right to the monos then save each file separately.  Then remaster each stereo set and mix.  Only difference between this and the R4 is the r4 did 2 stereo tracks.  Always wished SD would do that too.

so stereo on 1/2 and mono on 3/4 (or vice versa), set as polywav. and then what about splits? do you have any problem with file sizes being too large for wavelab?

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

I don't use wavelab so I can't comment.     And I only run 24/48 so I rarely tape sets that go over 2 hours.  But Samplitude can handle it with the way I process them.  And my splits happen at 54 min or so running 4 channel.

[NOLAfishwater]

OK so what am I doing wrong. I opened 1&2 mono files and render them to stereo, but the only problem is that it sounds like mono. the wav files look identical. why isn't there a true left and right? and why when I render to stereo does the file become brickwalled? I had to reduce the master volume by 3dbs to get them below clipping/brickwalling. I must be doing it all wrong. someone please help meh.

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

Do you have audacity?  Try opening the polywav in that.  You will get one stereo pair in one window and 2 mono's in 2 separate windows.

This is what your stereo one would look like...

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/images/audacity-macosx.png

This is what your 2 monos would look like

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/images/audacity-linux.png

In the above pic click where it says channel one in this example. It will say your file name though when you open yours.  You can choose left, right or mono.  Choose the coresponding left or right.  I generally do my stuff left [1],right [2] {for the stereo pair} left [3] right [4].  It all depends how you plug your cables in.

Once you've done that close the 2 mono files that you just changed to left and right and save the stereo file as your mics {as an example..could be board or whatever}
Then click edit, undo to bring back one mono channel.  Then again to bring back the other.  Now close out the stereo file and save the 2 mono's {that have been changed} as your board feed.  You should now have 2 clean stereo feeds.

Maybe wavlab is having issues with the poly's?

That should work.

And I'm at work so I don't have my software in front of me.  I'm going by memory.  Also be sure to go into options in Audacity and change your default save to 24 bit pcm 48 khz before you begin..

From there you should be able to mix them in wavelab.  Give it a try?

EDIT:  Leave the pan stuff alone.  You don't need to touch them.  Just leave them centered.

[NOLAfishwater]

well, I have the mono files open but the problem I am having is assigning them to L and R. for some reason, I am not able to do that in my audio dispatching popup box. not sure what the problem is. It only allows me Lfront or Rfront, but when I select one or the other it is still being broadcast to both L and R. check out the screen shot below

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

hmm.  Maybe I'll download a trial version of wavelab tomorrow and play around with it.  Not sure what to say.  I would hope there are some 744 users here who use Wavalab who might chime in?

[NOLAfishwater]

here is what happens when I check only Left on the top and only right on the bottom file. really weird. It is obviously a problem with my audio dispatching.

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

Ya that's certainly not right!  lol

[Gordon]

open the first left channel, create montage from file.  in montage right click on the little 1 on the left under the "fx" thing.  add mono track.   add the right channel.  render as stereo.  repeat as necessary.  whatever the "audio dispatching" thing is isn't what you need. 

[NOLAfishwater]

the audio dispatching is what I was having a problem with. I finally got the channels to assign correctly doing the following: under mode, I selected DVD audio and then Mono which assigns both channels to Center. I then went under Audio Dispatching and unchecked both the center marks. Then I went back to Mode and selected Stereo and was able to then correctly assign LF to the top file and RF to the bottom file. After that I could correctly render the file to stereo. Please see the attached picture. I think I am all good. For some reason I guess there was glitch that wasn't allowing me to just select it when in the stereo setting at first. oh well, I am off to the races now.