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Title: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: Jhurlbs81 on December 27, 2005, 11:30:10 PM
Would a splitter off the V3's SPDIF cause issues?  I want to run to my Microtrack and a 001 at the same time.  I could always use the XLR outs, but that takes up two of my channels on the 001.  Using the SPDIF gives me two extra...sorta..
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: bagtagsell on December 28, 2005, 01:22:11 PM
You could build an AES>SPDIF cable.
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: todd e on December 28, 2005, 02:51:06 PM
using something like this would be easy and very cost-effective.

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Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: Craig T on December 28, 2005, 03:35:35 PM
using something like this would be easy and very cost-effective.


that's what I use.  no problems.
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: Jhurlbs81 on December 28, 2005, 07:36:39 PM
sweet.  you guys rock
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: LeftoverSammy on January 08, 2006, 04:48:00 PM
using something like this would be easy and very cost-effective.


that's what I use.  no problems.


I disagree....I've run a split SPDIF signal from my UA-5 and V3 in the past (to two different decks) and experienced drop outs and other digital anomalies/artifacts that seem to happen ramdomly (not always). As a rule of thumb I was always told never to split your SPDIF output to your main recording deck/platform. A digital patchbay would be the safest bet I think, but more costly.

You may never experience an issue splitting an incoming (to a deck) but it can cause problems and many times is not worth the risk IMO.  I understand the temptation to use one of these splitters.......just thought you might want to know it has and can cause issues. Can't explain why exactly....as I don't recall... ???

I've had extensive discussions with other tapers and rarely in my experience find folks who do this.....but it can & is being done.  Just my .02 from the peanut gallery  ;)
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 08, 2006, 04:49:55 PM
using something like this would be easy and very cost-effective.

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I have used one like this for a long time with no problems at all.  The only time I had problems was when using the cheap ass Radio Shack Y splitters.
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: plucks on January 08, 2006, 09:55:49 PM
yes, a patchbay is more consistent & safer than a splitter
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: bconnolly on January 08, 2006, 10:49:24 PM
Anyone have any recommendations for patch bays to use? How much do they usually run?
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: LeftoverSammy on January 08, 2006, 10:50:23 PM
using something like this would be easy and very cost-effective.

(http://www.am-dig.com/cms/images/largeimages/SBY.jpg)

I have used one like this for a long time with no problems at all.  The only time I had problems was when using the cheap ass Radio Shack Y splitters.

Ah Grasshopper, I see your point, Crap Shack hardware does have its quality issues from time to time.  :angry3: But what is there really to this simple device or between devices that could affect the digital signal and cause errors? Its just a simple splitter......

Sorry, not to drag this on, but I've always wondered... :hmmm:

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 08, 2006, 11:00:40 PM
Besides one being gold, I really dont know the difference.  All I do know is that the Rat shack splitter gave me troubles everytime I tried it (3 times).  Since I got the gold splitter I haven't had one problem out of probably 25 or so uses over the last three years. 
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: Brian Skalinder on January 08, 2006, 11:54:45 PM
Big benefit in my mind of the AES > coax method, and one of the reasons I use this method:  a locking cable on the V3 side and no patchers with whom to contend.  Locking cable ensures secure connection, and giving patchers the coax means there's no chance of them unplugging their gear and accidently hosing your gear (e.g. by yanking the splitter off the feed cable, as opposed to pulling the patch cable out of the splitter).
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: Simp-Dawg on January 09, 2006, 11:18:43 AM
well, i've used the rat shack gold splitter without issue so i'd say it is at least a viable method for a cheap price.

next best (possibly the best) would be the locking aes > coax cable, which can be made by several board members, though i personally recommend todd ramsden of the colorado crue and his dogstar segue enterprises line.  not to discount marc kim (leegeddy's) own bumblebee line, or deadheaded's kind kables...all are fantastic cable makers.  this gives you and your patchers completely separate digi-outs from the v3...if patchers want to split the one you're not using, let them go ahead, even if they yank out the main deck/splitter you're still safe on your end.

of course the digital patchbay is another option, but i'd say let the patchers supply that...you're supplying the source, if you give them a second digi out from your v3 and they supply the patchbay you're golden no matter what, and as long as they have power to the 'bay so are they.
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: anhisr on January 09, 2006, 11:30:03 AM
For the same reason I use an AES>SPDIF cable.  That way the patchers can be their worst enemy.
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 09, 2006, 11:39:30 AM
well, i've used the rat shack gold splitter without issue so i'd say it is at least a viable method for a cheap price.
Yeah, I was talking about those cheap silver Y shaped splitters (ala the ones used for the oade active cables for the M1/D8).  My gold one is actually a Rat Shack as well.
Title: Re: V3 SPDIF splitter
Post by: nic on January 09, 2006, 06:07:03 PM
the only time a splitter like above(or RadioShack) has caused me a problem is when a D100/M1 was 1 of the 2 decks immediately out of the splitter. from what I can tell its related to the 4.5V of the D100/M1 as oppossed to the 6V of a DA-P1/D7/D8....