Topic: had an issue last night ive never ran across....advice wanted and sample posted

[heyitsmejess]

cant post a sample right now, but will shortly.

recorded NMAS last night.  good show!

the problem comes in that the bass was SO heavy, it has overloaded the recording.

behringer b2 pro (blumlien) > nady dmp-2 (with levels VERY conservative) > jb3 (not the dream rig, but not horrible, either)

was made to set up in the back, just on the outside of the balcony, with only the sbd and a wall behind me.

the bass roll off features with soundforge 8 dont seem to be cutting it.

any help/advice is welcome!

sample coming soon.

thanks in advance!

edit to say...the bass in the room was incrediably overpowering....knocked my drink off the mic case it was sitting on.

[heyitsmejess]

heres a sample...the entire recording sounds like this.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ezpcx0

[Roving Sign]

Sounds like either the preamp was brickwalled - or the nady brickwalled the JB3...hard to say. Not sure you can really fix it. Just dont do it again!

How do you do your level control? - based on the JB3 or the nady?

Seems like with the balanced(nady) > unbalanced(jb3) connection, you would be pushing a lot of gain to the jb3 and force you to run the nady a bit low...

If you are bricking the nady, you should use the mics attenuators (-10db) so you dont overload the pre...OR -  figure out what that "limiter" button does on the nady - the manual is exactly clear...it might really be an attenuator. If it is -  you should use that(instead of the on-mic atten), especially if you find yourself with your levels low (but still get a strong peak light)

[heyitsmejess]

+T for  the advice!

i tried to err on the side of caution with this...the gain on the nady was not even 1/4 way up for each channel, and the gain on the jb3 was set at the lowest setting (-12), ran line in.

im listening to the opener right now (amy lavere), and although its a bit bass heavy, it is nothing like the NMAS set.  its an open, boomy room to begin with (southgate house, newport, ky), but ive taped here once before and didnt have this problem.

the peak lights didnt come on once (i checked them reguarly).

oh well...i still have to post this, but im not happy with the results.  live and learn.

[morst]

If you are running gain really low, and still getting distortion, that is probably a brickwalling problem. Try to lower the level of the input signal before the Nady if that is possible.

[crackmc]

behringer b2 pro (blumlien) > nady dmp-2 (with levels VERY conservative) > jb3 (not the dream rig, but not horrible, either)

Jess...don't apologize for your rig, man. if you dig your pulls, it's a good rig.

as for the brickwalling...you can get attenuator pads for your XLRs...any decent audio store will have them (not sure about 'big' places like Guitar Center, though) - you can usually get them in increments of -10dBs, or you can get switchable -5dB/-10dB/-20dB pads . they're a valuable addition to your gear bag.
 

[heyitsmejess]

once again, thanks for the input, all.  will be picking up some attenuators soon.

talking with a friend that went with me, he tells me that he moved my stand back at set break cause someone asked him to ("some chick, bro").

where i was set up, that meant the top of the right channel mic was physically touching the balcony, and everytime the bass would hit, i was getting the vibrations.

still, tho, will be picking up some attenuators