Topic: Dual Discs

[nickgregory]

I tell you what, I have gotten two of the new dual discs that record companies are pushing now, where there is normal CD audio on one side and hi res audio on the DVD side and am sold...both cases (springsteen and DMB) the discs were as much as a regular CD would cost and the hi resolution side is fantastic...this is something the record companies should have done a long time ago....

[slightlys]

High res is the shit the first time I heard the 5.1 mix of NIN downward spiral I freaked out!

[macdaddy]

I tell you what, I have gotten two of the new dual discs that record companies are pushing now, where there is normal CD audio on one side and hi res audio on the DVD side and am sold...both cases (springsteen and DMB) the discs were as much as a regular CD would cost and the hi resolution side is fantastic...this is something the record companies should have done a long time ago....

same thing with hybrid sacds... i will never understand why that didnt take off - it seemed like a bitchin' idea to me...

[noahbickart]

The problem is that Dual Discs are not actually redbook complient.

-Noah

[krebsy]

I just picked up a hybrid SACD set the other day. I didn't even know such a thing existed. Now I just need to get an SACD capable player.    At least I can enjoy the CD audio in the meantime.

[macdaddy]

i bought a great one (sony scd-2000es) from the oade bros. - fantastic service, great deal, and solid product.

[BobW]

There's a bunch of folks calling them Dog Discs and Dumb Discs.
I haven't heard one yet.

What gets me, is that they still don't have a standard for resolution and content for the DVD side.
You never know what you're getting until you open it and read the fine print.

[George]

There's a bunch of folks calling them Dog Discs and Dumb Discs.
I haven't heard one yet.

What gets me, is that they still don't have a standard for resolution and content for the DVD side.
You never know what you're getting until you open it and read the fine print.

Yeah, that's pretty foul.  Also, i've read that dual discs can get stuck in the drive, i'd rather not risk that kind of damage to my source for a $15 disc. 

I think i'll just stick to MFSL mastered discs for the time being (as well as other audiophile brands) for HQ content.

[BobW]

There's a bunch of folks calling them Dog Discs and Dumb Discs.
I haven't heard one yet.

What gets me, is that they still don't have a standard for resolution and content for the DVD side.
You never know what you're getting until you open it and read the fine print.

Yeah, that's pretty foul.  Also, i've read that dual discs can get stuck in the drive, i'd rather not risk that kind of damage to my source for a $15 disc. 

I think i'll just stick to MFSL mastered discs for the time being (as well as other audiophile brands) for HQ content.

I've heard of people who are afraid that they'll get stuck, but no one who has had a jammed drive.
The tolerance is pretty tight and D.D. does (just) come in under the wire.

See the linked board for intolerable, opinionated DVD-A enthusiasts.   

[nickgregory]

I have heard some people bitching, but fwiw I have had no problems on both cheap and expensive transports in my home system and in the car...

[jaguaracer]

Be forewarned that 'advanced resolution' does not necessarily mean 24-bit.
Case in point, the new Dave Matthews dualdisc is 48/16, not 24-bit.
These record companies have to be clearer.  wtf does 'advanced resolution' exactly mean? Just give us the exact specs. DVD-A, otoh, are very clear in there specs. Thank you.

You never know what you're getting until you open it and read the fine print.

[zhianosatch]

I tell you what, I have gotten two of the new dual discs that record companies are pushing now, where there is normal CD audio on one side and hi res audio on the DVD side and am sold...both cases (springsteen and DMB) the discs were as much as a regular CD would cost and the hi resolution side is fantastic...this is something the record companies should have done a long time ago....

i bought the new judas priest like this... the only thing that sucks is if you store your cds in binders, like i do!

[Tim]

I've got the Springsteen and the NIN and I have the Stones Let It Bleed

the LIB won't play in my car, the Boss and NIN will

the Boss and NIN though seem to be giving my 3960 some fits on the cd side

cool idea, it will be great though when they get all of the kinks worked out

[macdaddy]

I've got the Springsteen and the NIN and I have the Stones Let It Bleed

the LIB won't play in my car, the Boss and NIN will

the Boss and NIN though seem to be giving my 3960 some fits on the cd side

cool idea, it will be great though when they get all of the kinks worked out

stones LiB is in dual disc..?

i have the hybrid sacd, but iwas unaware of any other hirez release...

fwiw, the lib sacd hybrid plays fine in my wife's car CD player (as did beggars' and ya-ya's)

[Tim]

it's actually the hybrid, sorry for the confusion

[macdaddy]

it's actually the hybrid, sorry for the confusion

you know me - i thought i was gonna have to go out and buy a new player for some different stones material

[dunebug81]

Ive picked up quite a few Dual Discs and I havnt had a problem with any of them except for Gold Medal by The Donnas and there was a recall on that disc.  I do love the surround sound mixes on NIN - With Teeth and Mudvayne - The End of All Things To Come.  I agree there needs to be a standard for the advanced res. but I can only listen to the dolby digital tracks as I only have a SACD player.  I wish that there were more hybrid SACDs but with the Dual Disc becoming so popular I have a feeling that it will become the format that sticks around for a good long while.  

Its a shame that the new DMB, Velvet Revolver, and Mudvayne - Lost and Found DDs dont have surround sound tracks on them.

[Tim]

it's actually the hybrid, sorry for the confusion

you know me - i thought i was gonna have to go out and buy a new player for some different stones material

lmao

+T

[BobW]

. 

Its a shame that the new DMB, Velvet Revolver, and Mudvayne - Lost and Found DDs dont have surround sound tracks on them.

I'm a fossil from the 2.0 world.  All I ever wanted was 24/96 stereo.   
Was that so much to ask for     

[macdaddy]

. 

Its a shame that the new DMB, Velvet Revolver, and Mudvayne - Lost and Found DDs dont have surround sound tracks on them.

I'm a fossil from the 2.0 world.  All I ever wanted was 24/96 stereo.   
Was that so much to ask for     

+T

couldnt agree more, although i prefer dsd 2 channel to 24/96 pcm...

but i have absolutely ZERO interest in surround mixes of music rignially recorded in mono or stereo...

[BobW]

couldnt agree more, although i prefer dsd 2 channel to 24/96 pcm...

but i have absolutely ZERO interest in surround mixes of music rignially recorded in mono or stereo...

You're in good company on DSD, Cheskey agrees loudly, in particular.
I don't see the science that makes it so.   Again, I'm a fossil. 
Higher clock can't be good because it "must" equal higher jitter has been my conumdrum.
On the other hand, it isn't possible to ABx SACD to DVD-A due to the different decoders.
Is it the process or the gear ?

Anyhow, I duck DSD for different reasons. Mostly because I don't have any DSD nor SACD gear, and I can't burn them, either.
When I can burn them, I may buy the gear.

Here's a wager for a one sealed, blank SACD disc:
Which happens first, the Phish Reunion tour or an SACD burning program is marketed for under $100 ?

My money's on the music.   

[macdaddy]

couldnt agree more, although i prefer dsd 2 channel to 24/96 pcm...

but i have absolutely ZERO interest in surround mixes of music rignially recorded in mono or stereo...

You're in good company on DSD, Cheskey agrees loudly, in particular.
I don't see the science that makes it so.   Again, I'm a fossil. 
Higher clock can't be good because it "must" equal higher jitter has been my conumdrum.
On the other hand, it isn't possible to ABx SACD to DVD-A due to the different decoders.
Is it the process or the gear ?

Anyhow, I duck DSD for different reasons. Mostly because I don't have any DSD nor SACD gear, and I can't burn them, either.
When I can burn them, I may buy the gear.

Here's a wager for a one sealed, blank SACD disc:
Which happens first, the Phish Reunion tour or an SACD burning program is marketed for under $100 ?

My money's on the music.   

for sh*ts and giggles, i'll take that bet.