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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2013, 04:27:30 PM »
When I have been using 4 mic's, I use my T-Bar in conjunction with a Shure A27M that threads and mounts on the center of the stand over my T-bar.  The Shure A27 has been my go to as well when only using 2 mics. as it allows for small or closely spaced mounting with a range of various angles, and vertical separations. Gives one quite a few ideas as well in regards to mic patterns when using this with a T-Bar.   The Shure A27 is extremely well built and durable too! GL!

it is built like a tank, but it's very heavy.  i like mine, but it doesn't get a lot of use because of the weight. 

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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2013, 05:35:53 PM »
Just curious any recommended T-bars for running 4 mics...I'm thinking of doi8ng a 3 mic bar with a shure vert bar in the center and one mic on either side....interested in other arrangements folks are running.

I use the Grace SpaceBar.

I have both 30cm and 66cm versions, as well as the centre mount.

I also have the extra mounts to run 4 mics on the one bar - eg: MS or ORTF + omni outriggers.

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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2013, 06:10:34 PM »
There's a grace model with center hub? I def want vert bar in middle.
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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2013, 06:53:50 PM »
An alternative to the Grace Space Bar is the SuperLux MA90 but to make it usable for four mics you will either need to get two and modify it like tonedeaf did or see if you can purchase two additional mic mounts (some modification still needed if you can get the mounts seperately).

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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2013, 05:38:39 AM »
There's a grace model with center hub? I def want vert bar in middle.

Yes - here is the pic.

The centre bar is an optional extra.



The threads can be either 3/8" standard or the horrible 5/8" US standard.

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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2013, 06:08:10 PM »
Lotsa ways to do it.  Though I hate the vert bar because it is so heavy.  It also always seemed to either be too tight to adjust, or so loose that it wouldn't hold position.

This was how I ran back in 2006, before I found the gospel of the ceiling.


I would do it like this if you're running active mics. If running non active mics, I would go with the Manfrotto 145B that acid jack linked to. You could run a very bar in the middle position and run cards or omnis spaced on each end!
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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2013, 08:59:58 PM »
Is there phasing or other issues if your 2 pairs are to close together?
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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2013, 09:19:54 PM »
Is there phasing or other issues if your 2 pairs are to close together?

No I run a vark bar with a 3" spacer and run mk41 and ca14 on the same very bar, and the one pair is only 3" above the bottom pair
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Re: T-BARS FOR RUNNING 4 MICS
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2013, 09:50:57 PM »
I run non-active and love the K & M noted here.  Relative light weight, multiple options and sturdy.  I use it often with the Shure vert and it can easily handle at least two of those.  Also using risers you have multiple  x-y and ortf configs available.   



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