Topic: Anyone running Nuemann TLM-102 LD Cards?

[waltmon]

Price is awesome...curious how they did in the field...

[H₂O]

wouldn't they be the same as the TLM170r's in Card position?

From reading around it looks like the TLM193 is more inline with the TLM170

[danlynch]

I have a pair and have used them with much success for outdoor shows.  Indoors, not so much.

Two examples:
https://archive.org/details/PhilLesh2013-06-09.nyctaper
http://www.nyctaper.com/2014/07/phish-july-11-2014-randalls-island-flacmp3streaming/

[Fried Chicken Boy]

Dan at NYCTaper runs a set of TLM-102's on occasion.  We taped side by side at Mountain Jam last year and I think his Phil & Friends pull with them was great, one of the best of that set.  You might want to reach out to him for his personal opinion but a handful of his 102 recordings are here, most of them matrixed with a board feed so you unfortunately won't be getting the "pure" Neumann sound. > http://www.nyctaper.com/tag/neumann-tlm-102/

Edit to add: Ha, you posted while I was writing mine up, Dan! 

[waltmon]

I was thinking they might nicely compliment the 150's for 4 channel.

[waltmon]

Both sound amazing...I'm getting a pair   

 

[acidjack]

I think the ones Dan uses are excellent mics, especially good outdoors. Side by side I have preferred them to Schoeps and MBHO. Also they have a nice small form factor for LDs.

[DSatz]

H2O, I'm trying to understand your question. I think you may have gotten some of your information a little wrong. The TLM 170 uses the K 89 capsule originally developed for the U 89. Size-wise, it's somewhere between what's usually called large-diaphragm (e.g. U 87, U 47) and what's usually called small (e.g. KM anything). The TLM 193 is the single-pattern (cardioid only) microphone that uses this capsule.

But the TLM 102 uses a new, large-diaphragm capsule that isn't used in any other type of microphone, and it doesn't resemble the TLM 170 or its relatives sonically.

[waltmon]

The capsule is also somehow shockmounted internally as well if I understand what Ive read correctly.

[John Willett]

H2O, I'm trying to understand your question. I think you may have gotten some of your information a little wrong. The TLM 170 uses the K89 capsule originally developed for the U 89. Size-wise, it's somewhere between what's usually called large-diaphragm (e.g. U 87, U 47) and what's usually called small (e.g. KM anything). The TLM 193 is the single-pattern (cardioid only) microphone that uses this capsule.

But the TLM 102 uses a new, large-diaphragm capsule that isn't used in any other type of microphone, and it doesn't resemble the TLM 170 or its relatives sonically.

Thanks David,

I was about to post exactly this.

The TLM 102 is a great little mic. for the money (and many prefer it to the TLM 103), but it's certainly no TLM 170.

The TLM 102's capsule is actually a glued capsule (this keeps the outside dimensions down, while maximising diaphragm area) and the back is actually a PCB.

The picture below is clickable to get the larger image:-

[H₂O]

I corrected myself in the post a few minutes after I posted the question - I guess I wasn't clear enough

The TLM170 does not resemble the 102 as you all pointed out - and the TLM193 is more in line with the TLM170