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Mic for ambience sound
« on: April 23, 2007, 04:50:08 AM »
Im searching a mic for recording in the natur, traffic,... The mic should record the ambience in good stereo.
What can you recommend?

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2007, 07:18:39 AM »
Hi Peter,
the same SP-TFB-2 omnidirectional from soundprofessionals I recommended in the German Mini Disc Forum ;).
1st: SONY PCM-M10 + DPA 4060's + DPA MPS 6030 power supply (microdot)
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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2007, 10:24:59 AM »
any good  stereo mic with low self noise will be good for nature  recording .
if you are working in humidityb arias , check if the mic can stand it .for eacy  scorring work  ms configurated setups
 you will need good wind protection as well (zepeline)
the price could be from few handred $ for small sony ecm to few fousands for neuman 191
inbetween you have few good ms stereo mics as sanken 5/7/9

pearl  single poit stereo microphones  ms 2/ 8/10/20

vp-88 from shure is working grate with urban noise or loud sounds , less with quet ambients

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2007, 12:55:53 PM »
Im searching a mic for recording in the natur, traffic,... The mic should record the ambience in good stereo.
What can you recommend?

While we're at it suggest also considering Sonic Studios stereo-surround HRTF baffled DSM-1S/H mic with WHB/N windscreen headband made by my company that's specialized exactly for this purpose. 

Optimum performance when system is configured with custom configured external low noise preamp into R-09/MT or similar portable deck.

Hundreds of ambient sample recordings with notes on the specific gear used at: www.sonicstudios.com/mp3.htm
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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2007, 05:08:53 PM »
i think he´s searching a cheap mic around 100$ ^^
Mics: MBHO MBP603A / KA200N, Soundprofessionals CMC8-C
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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2007, 08:32:17 PM »
Check out the MSH-1O's over at www.naiant.com get a pair of those and throw a j-disc in between them. With windscreens a matched pair is 54 bucks...they sound great too.

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2007, 09:44:40 PM »
If you are just looking for a cheap pair of mics, i would reccomend the SP-TFB-2 too.  They make true binaural recordings and they sound alright in stereo too.
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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2007, 03:47:17 AM »
Im searching a mic for recording in the natur, traffic,... The mic should record the ambience in good stereo.
What can you recommend?

Among naturalist the mic of choice under $100 is the Shure WL-183 there are many sites that teach you how to use it efficiently and to wire it to a Minidisc recorder

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 05:10:12 AM »
Hello,

I found a huge difference of price in Europe for the Shure WL-183.
144 euros at Thomann!
http://www.thomann.de/fr/shure_wl183.htm

any hints to buy them cheaper around here?

Thanks,

JM.

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 09:28:42 AM »
For this I use an MS set-up of Sennheiser MKH 30 & 40 in a Rycote.

As the MKH series are RF condensers they work happily in damp conditions where all others fail.


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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 05:14:39 PM »
Audio Technica 3032 omni (pair) Lower than published self noise (about 8db) and very good performer in cold, hot, humid conditions. About $150 each. Check naturerecordists.org and You will get lots of info about this mic and plans/audio samples of various stereo arrays using 3032. I use 2 in a homemade Jecklin disc array for quiet ambiences as well as recording music.

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 09:28:42 PM »
Audio Technica 3032 omni (pair) Lower than published self noise (about 8db) and very good performer in cold, hot, humid conditions. About $150 each. Check naturerecordists.org and You will get lots of info about this mic and plans/audio samples of various stereo arrays using 3032. I use 2 in a homemade Jecklin disc array for quiet ambiences as well as recording music.

Ambient sound recording is something I do a lot of -

I have a pair of AT3032's, excellent mic for nature work. I use it with a Sound Devices MixPre and R-09.

I also use a Rode NT4 in a blimp, Behringer C-2's when it's dangerous and SP-TFB-2s when I don't have my other gear with me. Actually I carry and R-09 and SP-TFB-2's (high sensitivity) everywhere I go.

You can listen to all here...

http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/usersViewSingle.php?id=29541

...just search for NT4, SP-TFB-2 or AT3032

BTW: This is a nice long ambience recorded on a pair of NT5's (same caps as the NT4)

http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samplesViewSingle.php?id=4173

However at the end of the day, a good place to start is a nice single-point stereo mic like the Rode NT4 or Audio Technica AT825 since they

1. Are a lot easier to handle. Setting up/taking down mic pairs is long and tedious when you are in the field....and requires stands etc
2. can be put in a blimp, which is a necessity when there is *any* wind about or you are on the move :)

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 10:02:32 PM »
Audio Technica 3032 omni (pair) Lower than published self noise (about 8db) and very good performer in cold, hot, humid conditions. About $150 each. Check naturerecordists.org and You will get lots of info about this mic and plans/audio samples of various stereo arrays using 3032. I use 2 in a homemade Jecklin disc array for quiet ambiences as well as recording music.

BTW: Got any pics?

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2008, 01:50:12 PM »
Here are a few pictures of my Jecklin disc setup. AT3032's mounted on K&M stereo bar. Padded handle from Trew Audio screwed into center hole in the stereo bar and a spring loaded mic clip is attached to that. The mic clip holds the disc which is made from an Ikea children's stool pad, some kind of dense foam which I cut a groove out of to clamp to better. The whole thing can be handheld, table top stand held or mounted on any 5/8"  threaded stand. One could forgo the handle and mini stand business of course, and just attach directly to the stand.

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Re: Mic for ambience sound
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 07:39:48 PM »
Here are a few pictures of my Jecklin disc setup. AT3032's mounted on K&M stereo bar. Padded handle from Trew Audio screwed into center hole in the stereo bar and a spring loaded mic clip is attached to that. The mic clip holds the disc which is made from an Ikea children's stool pad, some kind of dense foam which I cut a groove out of to clamp to better. The whole thing can be handheld, table top stand held or mounted on any 5/8"  threaded stand. One could forgo the handle and mini stand business of course, and just attach directly to the stand.

That's excellent (+T) :)

I will post some pics of mine, I used wetsuit material to make a cylinder about the size of a persons head.

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