Topic: DPA 4061 / SP-CMC-8 directly into R-09?

[Church-Audio]

Very simple question, though perhaps overly broad...

For a band like Yes (set varying from acoustic guitar solos to medium-volume amplified to loud/boomy bass pedals) would I be able to get away with DPA 4061 and/or SP-CMC-8 (AT943) directly into R-09?  I am trying to minimize my gear load, but I won't do it if it will significantly compromise the result.  Venues: Mostly outdoor sheds, some indoor 3-5,000 seaters, handful arenas.   P.S. I have proper connections for 4061.

There is not enough battery voltage to run your mics into the R-09. The voltage is 3.9 volts the dpa needs to see 5 volts the AT will work at 3.9 but at a decreased max spl I might be able to mod the 943 so it would work with your r09 directly but that will reduce the sensitivity of the mic and cause you to use more gain this "might" not be an issue in loud shows but it would be an issue in quieter ones.

Hold on there!  Yes, DPA need more volts.  However, AT853 and family will run quite well from Edirol Plug-in-power.  If you use a 4.7k or 2.2k mod, and run straight into the Edirol, AT853, AT822, Sennheiser KE4, Sennheiser MKE2, and Church mics will all work great.  Getting things to work on Minidisc plug-in-power is harder.  I've experienced overloads in many cases.

  Richard

2.4k for 3.8 volts 4.7 k for voltages above 5.8volts.

[SmokinJoe]

Might be silly question but I prefer to be sure. All that SP-SPSB-X battery boxes are also preamps but without any flexibility left for user, right?

No.  Battery boxes supply necessary power to the mics, with no gain.  Preamps "amplify" the signal, and it just so happens that just about every preamp also is set up to provide that power the mics need.

[Chaosu]

Might be silly question but I prefer to be sure. All that SP-SPSB-X battery boxes are also preamps but without any flexibility left for user, right?

No.  Battery boxes supply necessary power to the mics, with no gain.  Preamps "amplify" the signal, and it just so happens that just about every preamp also is set up to provide that power the mics need.

That suprised me a lot, why those are marked as 2-3 in this topic then? http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,35004.0.html

[taperwheeler]

Might be silly question but I prefer to be sure. All that SP-SPSB-X battery boxes are also preamps but without any flexibility left for user, right?

No.  Battery boxes supply necessary power to the mics, with no gain.  Preamps "amplify" the signal, and it just so happens that just about every preamp also is set up to provide that power the mics need.

So if someone is running a MT2 which supplies enough power for AT853 mics, there is really no need for the battery box (unless you wanna roll off some low end)?

Curious b/c I ran my first stealth recording the other night (at853>mt2).  The recording came out pretty okay.  Seems like there's some distortion on the low end though.  Not sure if I should've used the box?