Topic: Ethics Question - ALD recording if hearing impaired

[Gordon]

I believe some DMB tapers were doing this at one point. I read somewhere that it happened so much that finally decided to try and stop them.I don't remembet the whole story though.

they wer using some kind of device that picked up the in ear monitors that the guys were using.  made for a very crisp but bad tape imo.  It would pick up them talking to each other during the music etc.  I heard that one such show Dave ro somebody said "I know you can hear this.  fuck off." or something like that.

[nickgregory]

I believe some DMB tapers were doing this at one point. I read somewhere that it happened so much that finally decided to try and stop them.I don't remembet the whole story though.

they wer using some kind of device that picked up the in ear monitors that the guys were using. made for a very crisp but bad tape imo. It would pick up them talking to each other during the music etc. I heard that one such show Dave ro somebody said "I know you can hear this. fuck off." or something like that.

the band also got to the point where they had IEM scanners and went out in the audience during the show to find the guys getting the feed

[fsulloway]

I believe some DMB tapers were doing this at one point. I read somewhere that it happened so much that finally decided to try and stop them.I don't remembet the whole story though.

they wer using some kind of device that picked up the in ear monitors that the guys were using. made for a very crisp but bad tape imo. It would pick up them talking to each other during the music etc. I heard that one such show Dave ro somebody said "I know you can hear this. fuck off." or something like that.

the band also got to the point where they had IEM scanners and went out in the audience during the show to find the guys getting the feed

Ahh, that's right.It was the in ear monitors.. Wonder how they knew they were doing it in the first place though?Had they been doing it for a while and it finally got back to the band?

[nickgregory]

I think a couple started showing up in trading circles on the boards...doesnt take too long til the whole world knows about them then....

[bgalizio]

I talked to the venue today and they are going to have an ALD for me that night.  So, that's nice.  Now, do I tape or not?  I suppose I could plug the deck in and tape, while using the headphone jack on the MD for listening purposes.  That would kill two birds with one stone.  Will there be problems running from the headphone out of the FM unit to the line-in on the MD (I'm assuming I'll have to pump the levels up)?

[bgalizio]

Oh, one more question.  The ALD will be sourced in mono, which I prefer so I can just use one headphone and have one ear "open."  So, if I tape it with the borrowed MD, I suppose I could record in mono instead of SP mode then?

[NewHomebrew]

I would hate to see people who actually need these devices get a hard time because they were being abused for other purposes.  Esp when we can make nice recordings so many other ways.

[braweave]

I believe some DMB tapers were doing this at one point. I read somewhere that it happened so much that finally decided to try and stop them.I don't remembet the whole story though.

yep.. they broke it down at deer creek night 2 in 02.. they ripped through everyones bags at least 2x priar to the show and 1x during the show.. they got a lot of shit for it because they were very dis-respectful. one of my cables got unplugged and i believe it happened to someone else as well..

i asked them what they were looking for at one point and was told they were looking for a sure monitor reciever or the house issued listening devices.
aka iem and ald.

[Depechemode1993]

I have a few ALD recordings and most of them are very good. I have DM at Inglewood '98 both nights and its very good. isn't it supposed to be broadcasted at FM signals or something? also u2 at the Silverdome in '92 I think? I forgot the year. I would definately go for it.

[taperanonymous]

Pearl Jam Hartford 1996

Can anyone provide an example of a show taped from the listening devices?  I thought that a phish show in 1995 from Madison Square Garden was circulating with this source, but I can;t find it anywhere.

But I definitely want to try it one day.

[Frequincy]

I remember in recording school, the live sound part of the training, my instructor said he always shelved the patch with a high pass. I forget the frequency. He said he did it for this very reason. It ruined the recording, but the lister could enjoy the show, being as they felt the low end and the upper frequencies were what the devices were designed to reproduce.

[George]

Pearl Jam Hartford 1996

Can anyone provide an example of a show taped from the listening devices?  I thought that a phish show in 1995 from Madison Square Garden was circulating with this source, but I can;t find it anywhere.

But I definitely want to try it one day.

Way to go on bumping a 6 yr old thread   

[guitard]

Pearl Jam Hartford 1996

Can anyone provide an example of a show taped from the listening devices?  I thought that a phish show in 1995 from Madison Square Garden was circulating with this source, but I can;t find it anywhere.

But I definitely want to try it one day.

Way to go on bumping a 6 yr old thread   

Indeed~!  I somehow missed this the first time around. Interesting thread.  Thanks.