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tubes and the electric bill
« on: October 08, 2007, 03:06:46 PM »
I just moved into my girlfriend's place... she's been here for over a year and just sent this email.

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Hey - I just got my Xcel bill and it's $XXX - that's the most it's EVER
been in that apartment even in the dead of summer running the a/c all
day. Are we using a bunch of energy on something?

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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 03:14:34 PM »
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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2007, 03:15:24 PM »
But think of all the money you'll save on the heating costs in the winter!

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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 03:39:21 PM »
It's not you, do the math.

Suppose you run the amp 60 hours a week, and on average, it draws 500W (which is probably twice the correct number).  In one month, that's 120 kWh.  Multiply that by your rate, say it's a whopping $0.10/kWh, and you're paying $12.  Use the real numbers and you'll see it's not your amp. 

She's not going to buy it, though.


I just moved into my girlfriend's place... she's been here for over a year and just sent this email.

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Hey - I just got my Xcel bill and it's $XXX - that's the most it's EVER
been in that apartment even in the dead of summer running the a/c all
day. Are we using a bunch of energy on something?

Oops!
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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 03:43:56 PM »
I wonder what it would be then?

luckily she doesn't really care, she loves listen to music on my setup
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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 03:57:46 PM »
I wonder what it would be then?





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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2007, 04:00:43 PM »
If you have access to the electric meter (you may not in an apt but maybe maint can let you in while they're working on-site) you can measure your own use. Multiple readings will allow you to isolate big draw appliances.   Seeing how everything adds up is an eye-opener. Maybe someone is stealing power from you.

This is the basic process I used:

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/measure.html

A friend lived in an apt complex that divided some utility use between residents in weird ways. A third party did the billing.  Stats were NOT provided to residents.  The cost for the third party billing agency was not disclosed (surely there was a cost). It was obviously a huge scam and the apt complex freaked out when my friend demanded meter readings.

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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2007, 04:03:22 PM »
you know, I did the math and given the relatively low number that the bill was ($51) my amp could very well be bumping up the bill.

I think we can swing it :P
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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2007, 04:14:59 PM »
you know, I did the math and given the relatively low number that the bill was ($51) my amp could very well be bumping up the bill.

$51 - then no big mystery. Definitely the amp.  Your original post said "$XXX" so I assumed it was at least $100.

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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 04:32:03 PM »
Yeah, I thought we were talking about three digits, but in that case...

you know, I did the math and given the relatively low number that the bill was ($51) my amp could very well be bumping up the bill.

Your original post said "$XXX" so I assumed it was at least $100.

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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2007, 04:32:21 PM »
yeah, my bad... sorry for the confusion :P
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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2007, 05:01:23 PM »
I wonder what it would be then?





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The tubes that keep on giving. I gotta try some HPS tubes in the Rogue!  >:D

On the other hand, she ha a bill of less than $50 running the AC full time in the summer!?! That is one damn efficent AC!
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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2007, 05:02:53 PM »
I've been anxious to get my next bill. I bought an Odyssey Stratos which is supposed to be left on 24/7. It's been on since I got it 3 weeks ago. We'll see if it stays left on in about a week when the new bill arrives.

Being in the northeast(especially NH) our power bills seem to be higher. Our average cost I think is around .12/.13 per KWH with the distribution charges and such.

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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2007, 05:11:42 PM »
Stagger - that's just a window unit. This is Denver and the building is from the 1930's, no central air.

Janka - I've been leaving my amp on more lately. It takes 20+ to really warm up so I turn it on mid-morning and shut it off in the evening.
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Re: tubes and the electric bill
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2007, 07:47:44 PM »
Window units are typically less efficent than central air. I know my bills went down when I went from my old place (window) to my new place (central) even though the new place is 2-3 times the size of the old one.
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