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Title: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on April 27, 2012, 11:57:57 AM
Perhaps I'm not using proper terms but I can't seem to find what I'm looking
for via a google search.

I want to hook up two consoles to an HD24.  So I need to take the direct outs
(TRS) from each console into an A/B box then out to the HD24.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on April 27, 2012, 12:45:33 PM
A patch bay with three snakes maybe?
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kirk97132 on April 27, 2012, 03:10:06 PM
I can't say I've ever heard of an AB switch for 24 channels.  And the Patchbay would need to be Passive or else it's gonna send signal back to the other console.  Only foolproof thing I can think of is a 48 track board that has some combination of 24 outputs, a combination of groups, sends and main outs.  But beyond that I don't know how you'd do it.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on April 27, 2012, 04:03:58 PM
This is what I was thinking of. Unless you have to switch between the boards quickly, you just connect the one that is currently running.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-PX3000-Ultrapatch-Pro-Patchbay-102916384-i1125229.gc?&source=4WWRWXGB&cagpspn=pla&=
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on April 27, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
This is what I was thinking of. Unless you have to switch between the boards quickly, you just connect the one that is currently running.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-PX3000-Ultrapatch-Pro-Patchbay-102916384-i1125229.gc?&source=4WWRWXGB&cagpspn=pla&=

 :hmmm:  I really need an A/B switch, the swap between boards could be less than a minute.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on April 28, 2012, 06:08:13 PM
Only foolproof thing I can think of is a 48 track board that has some combination of 24 outputs, a combination of groups, sends and main outs.

Another console isn't an option I can consider.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on April 28, 2012, 06:31:25 PM
I've never seen a switch for that many channels. I'd have some worries with the other suggestions including my own. Ground loops, impedance issues, etc. Transformer isolated splitters may work. Have you checked with the local big sound companies to see if they have anything? They may be willing to rent gear.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on April 29, 2012, 12:41:55 PM
Checking with some custom snake companies now, but hell it might be
cheaper/easier to simply buy another hd24 and have one for each console.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on April 29, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Lease or borrow one maybe?
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kirk97132 on April 29, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
Checking with some custom snake companies now, but hell it might be
cheaper/easier to simply buy another hd24 and have one for each console.
Have asked on your local team board.  You'd be surprised how many tapers  have HD-24's
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on April 29, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
Lease or borrow one maybe?

I'm thinking the "permanant install" approach, so I'd prefer to own it.
Not sure what they rent/lease for.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on April 29, 2012, 05:33:38 PM
Have asked on your local team board.  You'd be surprised how many tapers  have HD-24's

We're a pretty small team, and I don't know anyone that owns an HD24.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on April 29, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
Lease or borrow one maybe?

I'm thinking the "permanant install" approach, so I'd prefer to own it.
Not sure what they rent/lease for.

Sounds best to own another then.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on May 11, 2012, 10:38:37 PM
I may have found you a deal
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on May 12, 2012, 02:47:24 AM
I may have found you a deal

A friend wants to sell his Alesis 24 track HD recorder ($1250). Its set up with lightpipe and ADAT. He also has a Yamaha board also set up with lightpipe that is up for sale ($3k for both). I can put you in touch if you are interested. He used it to record on the road with the Magic Band (Capt. Beefheart) and Tommy Tutone but health issues are keeping him closer to home where he already has a full studio. Great guy, very trustworthy.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on May 12, 2012, 12:40:44 PM
I might be interesrted in that.  Low hours I assume.
Seems that some units are still going for about $1k
via ebay.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: cybergaloot on May 12, 2012, 03:46:44 PM
I'll send you his email address via PM.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kirk97132 on May 13, 2012, 01:48:25 PM
I might be interesrted in that.  Low hours I assume.
Seems that some units are still going for about $1k
via ebay.

FUnny a few months ago there was a glut of them and you coudl get a steal some as low as $550 and in great shape to boot.  But now....you're lucky to get one at a grand.   There is an XR unit on flea bay with extras a good price right now.   I love the HD-24 just solid and easy to use
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: goodcooker on May 19, 2012, 12:29:55 AM

Here's one on Gearslutz for $650 and he's asking for offers....

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds/728665-alesis-hd24.html (http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds/728665-alesis-hd24.html)

No affiliation.
Title: Re: 24 Channel TRS Split Snake
Post by: kcmule on May 19, 2012, 12:25:44 PM
Thanks.  Trying to create an account and login to view the post but getting some silly errors.
Oh well.