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Another MT II issue (sorta)
« on: January 05, 2008, 03:04:08 PM »
I ordered a 32GB compact flash card from NewEgg (BECAUSE IT"S THERE, that's why), and was happy that the MT II media test said it would record at 24/96.  Hooked the MT II to a USB power source and went 1/8" stereo in from a radio, levels checked okay at low settings and left it running to record at 24/96 all night.  Around 5am the machine shut down, having recorded with seamless splits at ~2GB (the good news) exactly FIVE files (alternating just over and just under 1.953 GB each), leaving 22GB on the card free.  I could understand a limit at 8GB or 16 GB, but WHY at 10GB?  Has anyone run a 16GB or 32GB card on the MT II with different results??

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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2008, 11:35:19 AM »
i did a small, short test with a 16gb card and a mt1
it worked fine, when i get a chance i will try and do longer one
i know its not a big help though :/
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008, 01:20:13 PM »
I have a 16gb coming in the mail. When I get it I will test it out.
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 09:02:27 PM »
I tested today another brand card, this time 16GB.  Consistant result: it again recorded at 24/96 for roughly five hours, creating five ~2GB files, and then shut down.  Why is there a 10GB limit on consecutive seamless files?  I don't get it.

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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 09:11:05 PM »
Have you gone to M Audio's site and sent in a service ticket?  I would love to hear their answer to this one.  They thought that nobody would record that long.  If they come back with that one, note that Phish played for 7 hours straight. 

I wonder if you, after a couple of hours, hit the record so it would write the file and then started again if it would hit the wall at 10 gig.  Meaning is it a total thing before you hit record again to save the files or will the unit only read 10gb no matter how large the card is. 

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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 09:47:16 PM »
Have you gone to M Audio's site and sent in a service ticket? 


I just left a ticket. 


I wonder if you, after a couple of hours, hit the record so it would write the file and then started again if it would hit the wall at 10 gig.  Meaning is it a total thing before you hit record again to save the files or will the unit only read 10gb no matter how large the card is. 


I just took the recorder with the 16GB card in it, with 10GB in five files, and started it up.  It starts to record a sixth file with no problem, so I think the issue is only with consecutive seamless-split files, not that the MTII doesn't see the whole card.

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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 01:46:08 PM »
I ordered a 32GB compact flash card from NewEgg (BECAUSE IT"S THERE, that's why), and was happy that the MT II media test said it would record at 24/96.  Hooked the MT II to a USB power source and went 1/8" stereo in from a radio, levels checked okay at low settings and left it running to record at 24/96 all night.  Around 5am the machine shut down, having recorded with seamless splits at ~2GB (the good news) exactly FIVE files (alternating just over and just under 1.953 GB each), leaving 22GB on the card free.  I could understand a limit at 8GB or 16 GB, but WHY at 10GB?  Has anyone run a 16GB or 32GB card on the MT II with different results??

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What was the USB power source? It sounds like maybe it was not supplying power so the unit shut down. I know I once had my MT charging to my PC and the PC wnet to the sleep mode and my MT ran down during that time I thought I was charging it. Was the MT fully charged after it stopped? Keep us posted.
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 02:35:20 PM »
What was the USB power source? It sounds like maybe it was not supplying power so the unit shut down. I know I once had my MT charging to my PC and the PC wnet to the sleep mode and my MT ran down during that time I thought I was charging it. Was the MT fully charged after it stopped? Keep us posted.

The USB power source was a computer plugged into a wall.  The MT II read full power both times (the second time I saw it a few minutes after it shut down, so it would have had to recharge REAL quick).  The shutdown was after exactly five full files had been written each time.  Impossible that this was power related.

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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 02:52:03 PM »
I did notice that if you record more than one file the date modified for all the files is when the last file was written.  The date created is when the file started. 
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 08:56:45 PM »
at least this issue wouldn't ever really be an issue, i mean how many time will you record that long wihtout a stop

anyway i was thinking, try recording 2 files then stopping and restarting the recording, see if it still stops at 10gb or if it goes thru
at least then you will know if its a 10gb prob or if its something else
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 09:02:30 PM »
I got my 16gb card in the mail today.  Checking to see if I run into the 10gb issue. 
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 01:47:52 AM »
at least this issue wouldn't ever really be an issue, i mean how many time will you record that long wihtout a stop


Not an issue at all for some folks.  But a BIG issue for me.  Five times in the last three weeks for tapes running over five hours (so that I needed external power on my MiniR82 to get through).

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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 09:32:19 AM »
at least this issue wouldn't ever really be an issue, i mean how many time will you record that long wihtout a stop


Not an issue at all for some folks.  But a BIG issue for me.  Five times in the last three weeks for tapes running over five hours (so that I needed external power on my MiniR82 to get through).

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wow
i would def give my idea a try though, record 2 files (or anything long enough)
then stop and restart, see if you still get stuck at 10gb or if it goes past 10gb
this way you will know if its stopping at 10gb period
or stopping at  any 10gb mark
maybe its something to do with the card hitting 10gb full or maybe its the recorder hitting the 10gb
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 02:47:31 PM »
Still get stuck at 10gb limit.   I think it has something to do with some buffer.  If you look at when the group of files were last modified.  They have the same date.  The created date is different but, until you hit record a second time, all of the last modified are the same.
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Re: Another MT II issue (sorta)
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 02:51:56 PM »
OH, and I have been all over them about the light going off when on hold.  They always came back that it saves battery time.  my reply:

Why did you have to figure we are too stupid to turn the light off if we want the battery to last longer. Once again, let it be our choice. I use an external power source in the field. I like to have the unit on hold so, I don't accidentally have it turn off while on my bag. I also need to know that for some reason the unit hasn't frozen or stopped on its own. Your thinking takes away that ability

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