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Title: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: flintstone on January 31, 2014, 05:35:52 PM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1026852-REG/zoom_h5_handy_recorder.html

Looks like the H6 minus two XLR inputs.  The H5 does have two XLRs on the bottom end of the recorder, and can record two external channels while it records two channels from the mics on the top.  The X-Y mic module is removable.  The H6 modules (two extra XLR, mid-side mic, or zoom mic) will fit.

I didn't see size or weight specs, but it should be smaller than the H6.   Since the H6 costs about $400, I expect the H5 to have a MSRP around $300.
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: Jonmac on January 31, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
Mics on built in shock mounts !! I wonder how durable they are.

I don't see any 20db pad switches, maybe they are on the side, it would be
a shame if they had been left off.

It hasn't appeared on the Zoom web site yet.


Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: spyder9 on January 31, 2014, 08:46:14 PM
Slap this puppy on it and you have 4 channel-goodness.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/981648-REG/zoom_exh_6_dual_xlr_trs_input_capsule.html


Read bottom post by BandH in regards to this module.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/indepth/audio/news/zoom-introduces-h5-handy-recorder

Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: runonce on January 31, 2014, 10:27:20 PM
Looks like a proper XY...for once!
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: sos on January 31, 2014, 11:23:50 PM
Shock mounts? Seriously??   :banging head:
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: jagraham on February 01, 2014, 06:41:10 PM
Looks cool, but agreed that the shock mounts are nonsense. So is it possible to have 4 channels without using the internal mics? Looks like that module in the link a couple posts up would allow for 4 XLRs at once.

I'm waiting for something like the DR-2d that does 4ch with no internals.
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: Xonic on February 02, 2014, 05:20:23 AM
Hi. I Have no eye sight, so not able to see pics of this. What are the shockmounts everyone is complaining about? how do the built in mics on the unit look? is it essentially a smaller unit with the h6 x y mics stapled on top? If not, I wonder what the difference between the h6 XY mics and the h5 internal mics will be.
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: dogmusic on February 02, 2014, 10:58:22 AM
Hi. I Have no eye sight, so not able to see pics of this. What are the shockmounts everyone is complaining about? how do the built in mics on the unit look? is it essentially a smaller unit with the h6 x y mics stapled on top? If not, I wonder what the difference between the h6 XY mics and the h5 internal mics will be.

It appears the mics on the H5 are also modular, not stapled on. You can use the modules from the H6. The shockmount are on the mics and could be useful if you have the recorder screwed on a mic stand or with a camera.
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: kenyee on February 02, 2014, 05:13:06 PM
Slap this puppy on it and you have 4 channel-goodness.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/981648-REG/zoom_exh_6_dual_xlr_trs_input_capsule.html

But w/o phantom power.

The H5 looks very much to be the H4n's successor.  Nice part is the XLRs don't stick out the side so you might be able to put a proper case on it :-)

Would you every need 6 channels for HDSLR recording?  I'm not sure if the H6 is needed any more.  The nice part about the H6 was the better preamps which were the H4n's weakness...
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: fguidry on February 03, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Looks like a proper XY...for once!

Well, for twice at least, since the H6 XY is also coincident, unlike the Sony offerings and others.

Shock mounts? Seriously??   :banging head:

My immediate thought is how useful this will be for folks who use the H5 handheld if the shock mount is effective. Nearly all these portable recorders transmit a lot of handling noise to the mics and make mounting them mandatory. If this can be used in the hand it opens up lots of new uses.

...
The H5 looks very much to be the H4n's successor....

The H6 doesn't overdub as effectively as the H4n, less flexibility in assigning inputs. I find no mention of overdubbing capability in the H5 blurbery.

Fran
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: jerryfreak on February 05, 2014, 02:40:23 AM
WHO DOESNT LOVE A GOOD HANDY?
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: BlingFree on February 07, 2014, 04:02:57 PM
Wish they would have thought of that big bar over the knobs on the H6..  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: flintstone on May 14, 2014, 12:17:44 PM
Mainstream audio retailers are starting to advertise the Zoom H5 at $270, but no one has stock quite yet.  This price is about $125 less than the price of the H6.
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: waltmon on May 16, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Does the optional input module provide phantom power?
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: fotoralf.be on May 17, 2014, 08:40:04 AM
Does the optional input module provide phantom power?

It doesn't on the H6. Another thing that strikes me is the lack of a 3.5 mm mic input on the H5's XY microphone module.

Ralf
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: Jonmac on May 17, 2014, 12:12:42 PM
Does the optional input module provide phantom power?

It doesn't on the H6. Another thing that strikes me is the lack of a 3.5 mm mic input on the H5's XY microphone module.

Ralf

yes, there is one on the right hand side, what I don't see are -20db pad switches, may be it's done in firmware.

Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: waltmon on May 17, 2014, 07:58:31 PM
How bout a spldf in/out? Cant figure out why lotsa these decks dont have them.
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: fotoralf.be on May 18, 2014, 06:45:24 PM
How bout a spldf in/out? Cant figure out why lotsa these decks dont have them.

What's the point of having one on a portable unit? My whole home audio system is connected through SPDIF but I couldn't think of a sensible use for it on the road.

Ralf
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: H₂O on May 18, 2014, 07:59:40 PM
What's the point of having one on a portable unit? My whole home audio system is connected through SPDIF but I couldn't think of a sensible use for it on the road.

Ralf


Their are alot of people that use external Pre's and AD's to use SPDIF.   Or someone may want to have a backup recorder attached digitally.  People have done this for years (since the early 1980's when the first PCM setups become available - where the AD and recorder where different pieces of hardware)


Zoom's are not aimed at the professional market (only the semi-pro, hobbiest, etc) so I can never see them adding this feature.   They offer recorders to staple to your camera to get moderately  better sound then you will get out of the camera internal mic.


I think the only reason Sony and Tascam offer digi in's on there midrange handhelds is because they have offered this in the past.


True bit buckets are all but dead as their just isn't a big enough market any more.  How many videographers do you see lugging around a V3 or even mixpre-d around with there DSLR setup.


Maybe if camera makers start offering digital in's with 24bit bit perfect recording a rebirth of external AD's and thus bit buckets will hit again.
Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: Jonmac on May 21, 2014, 11:30:10 AM
Here's a review of the H5 at B&H

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK9RMOC8d3s

Title: Re: Zoom H5 announced
Post by: flintstone on June 18, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
On sale now at the usual outlets.  Typical price $270.