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...for clamping to others' rigs? I'm about to purchase a clamp especially
for this reason. I'm new to this and don't want to rumple any feathers
when attempting to run my mics on another's rig. I run a pair of busman's.
Any other clamp advice would be much appreciated. I'll be going around
the venues before jazzfest just to take dimensions of of the room including
clamp possibilities, PA spacing, etc... Thanks in advance >>> Andy.
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Seems like almost everyone uses the Windtech clamp when clamping onto someone else's stand - http://shopwiki.com/detail/d=windtech_mpc-10_multi-position_clamp/jumpToFirst=true/
There are other clamps that are better for other things and I've seen some pretty cool clamps that people use to clamp onto other people's stands but that windtech clamp is used by about 90% of people. It's sure to not ruffle any feathers.
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thanks. I have searched other threads and it has helped me a great deal.
I guess I just can't envision the process of clamping to something cylindrical.
Wasn't sure about sturdiness but I was looking into that windtech through
searching the forum. Thanks for the go-ahead. +T if I could ;D
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thanks. I have searched other threads and it has helped me a great deal.
I guess I just can't envision the process of clamping to something cylindrical.
Wasn't sure about sturdiness but I was looking into that windtech through
searching the forum. Thanks for the go-ahead. +T if I could ;D
Some clamps have a wedge that allows you to clamp to a cylinder (mic stand) or a flat edge. The windtech is one of them, and is excellent for clamping to a mic stand.
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Some clamps have a wedge that allows you to clamp to a cylinder (mic stand) or a flat edge. The windtech is one of them, and is excellent for clamping to a mic stand.
Oh, ok. I see the wedge now. The B&H watermark is in the way. Great news!
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I like my ultraclamp:
https://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&krypto=J4RGVCOx1NUYX9rrhIiCX5sUgkzX4NvDb2t%2Fmi%2BALE8nrGMv1ho8OVMOIbX9bvY4jshWHBqBNt4G%0AG%2FKR4YReWSTL%2FwWQ1Y3DFp5k%2B7VWtZ8Ogn%2BdXFeSXg%3D%3D
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This clamp is by far the most versatile clamp made.
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http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/BG4210/ (http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/BG4210/)
(http://www.calumetphoto.com/resources/images/products/ASSET_58677.jpg)
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Regarding the UltraClamp, it is very versatile. But I found it isn't very robust. It failed to securely hold a single AKG C414B-XLS + shockmount, so I ultimately gave up on it and stuck with the Windtech. YMMV.
Regarding the SuperClamp - great clamp, but I find it a bit bulky and heavy for stand-clamping. But for clamping to most other objects, it's great.
Someone also fairly recently pointed out a knock-off of the previously popular Rowi, but I don't remember where, exactly.
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(http://www.blackmarketchicago.com/images/nipple-clamps/Adjustable-Alligator-Nipple-Clamps.jpg)
/ohhhh, sorry...wrong type of clamp
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I have both the Windtech (post#2) and the Manfrotto (#9) While the Windtech does the job the Manfrotto is in another league if you are clamping onto say a balcony rail or coming down from something in the ceiling. The Manfrotto is rock steady. Actually I had forgotten what it was called and didn't know where to find another so thanks for the links.
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After checking out a bunch of venus I have noticed that the best clamping spots
are pillars in the room that exceed the velcro strap dimensions on this UltraPod I
just got. Anyone know of any "large-mouthed" clamps or techniques to secure a
clamp to a 1ftx1ft (or larger in some cases) pillar? Thanks in advance...
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Anyone know of any "large-mouthed" clamps or techniques to secure a
clamp to a 1ftx1ft (or larger in some cases) pillar?
Rather than schlepping around a HUGE clamp, you could just get a strip of velcro and extend the UltraPod's strap so it fits.
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yeah thats what I was thinking. Do you trust velcro to hold your mics up?
I'm a bit hesitant because I'm worried velcro isn't strong enough....
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I'm now in the market for a clamp as I have a concert with a railing I can attach to. I'm dead center, rear orch, just behind that railing:
(http://www.foxcitiespac.com/images/seating/Vseats.png)
Search has been my friend and this thread has been handy. I have Busman mics on order and perhaps the Ultra clamp could handle them? I have an AKG bar to attach to the clamp. I see from Brian's response though that he had problems with his AKG mics with the Ultra, so perhaps the Windtech MPC-10 is the best choice. Any more input would be welcome.
I don't think I want that Bogen Quick Release clamp. Looks huge and bulky and I am just clamping to a railing.
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For railings, I like the SuperClamp best. Judging from the picture, I'd also probably want to raise the mics a bit, say with a gooseneck extension.
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Back from the dead... I've read a bit of the old clamp threads in the archives and between those and this, I'm left with just one question (I think):
Will the Windtech MPC-10 really support a shockmount and an LD mic (like the LSD2 or BSCS-L?), I would have thought it would have some trouble with that sort of weight? Is that the point where someone would go to the bogen super-he-man-clamp? I remember seeing the pictures of Nick's LSD2 and where the superclamp was involved with the bad mount, so I was curious if thats just what people who have big mics use, or if it was just an example and wasn't a realistic application (regardless of the bad mount). Thanks.
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I have the windtech and would not trust it with a large mic...it's just not heavy duty enough.
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Will the Windtech MPC-10 really support a shockmount and an LD mic (like the LSD2 or BSCS-L?), I would have thought it would have some trouble with that sort of weight?
I used the MPC-10 with my AKG 414s all the time - one clamp per shockmount & mic. No problems whatsoever. The 414s are on the smaller side of LD mics, so YMMV.
Some pics: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,51606.msg1068595.html#msg1068595
I'd never trust a pair of LDs and shockmounts on a single MPC-10, though.
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What Brian said.
Since he posted pictures of the 414s mounted with windtechs, that's all I've used with mine. I've never had any issue. The H-85 basket will give before that clamp will.
The only issue I've had with the windtech is the end of the threaded rod having a sharp ridge that eventually bites through the rubber end cap but that is easily addressed with a flat file.
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i would trust a windtech to hold a LD.
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http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,2456.0.html
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http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,2456.0.html
Yeah, I'd poked through that, plus the thread from Shaggy about the double superclamp and the one about the balcony in Jacksonville, and the one about the extension that Moke linked. I thought those were geared toward smaller stuff (minus the superclamp) since they generally recommend the windtech. I've missed stuff before, and I apologize if a clamp that would hold heavy stuff is in there and I missed the reference. I'll go back and read through them again just in case.
+Ts for the responses folks, thanks.
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The Windtech will support a set of SDs, the basic swivel T-Bar that most people use and a pair of reasonably light shocks no problem. I've clamped My MGs, the swivel T and WindtechSP20 shocks to another stand with no problems. The Avantone shocks I am running now may be a little heavy for that clamp though. Bogen superclamps are a lotta weight just by themselves to be putting on the top riser of many stands - depends on how sturdy the top riser is.
The Windtech is not sturdy enough to hold a pair of LDs and shocks. But it is more than adequate to run a single LD and a heavy duty shockmount per clamp. I've run my TLs that way with no problems and I think are a lot heavier than the 414s.
(http://www.geocities.com/wes_atl2003/ADKTLXY1.jpg)
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Yes, a windtech will support an LSD2... done it several times, both clamped to a stand, and to the ceiling beam at the local club. No worries.