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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: randallanddarcy on April 24, 2008, 08:33:16 PM
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I am going to America to see Pearl Jam in June, and I'm thinking of finally upgrading my MiniDisc gear to the Edirol R09. My question is: these things record straight to a card. I think it only comes with a wee card, I think. I'll be recording my shows as WAV files (as opposed to mp3). I presume the card that comes with it (if it does come with one) won't have enough space to record a whole show onto. How big a card would I need, and would the card be a generic card or one made specifically for this machine? I'll be doing 6 or 7 shows as well, so the ideal would be to have room for them all on the card and then stick on them computer when I get home.
Anybody use these machines and can help? Are they 'buggy'? Someone suggested getting an iriver, but they only record to mp3. Recording to WAV is technically better quality, right?
Any help appreciated.
Randall
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I've had an R-09 for a couple of months now and I'm really happy with it. The card that comes with it is only 64MB, so it's worthless. The R-09 can record in 16 or 24 bit, and you'll get about 1.5 hours per GB at 16 bit and just under an hour at 24 bit. I'm guessing that 7 Pearl Jam shows would be about 14-16 hours, so you'd need at least a 16GB SD card to get it all on one (at 16 bit).
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I'll second the thumbs-up on the R-09. I love mine. SD cards are cheap too, so it's not too bad to buy a few for your purpose.
BTW, the iRiver will record to WAV format. Not sure if it does in it's native state, but it's easy to "Rockbox" the unit which gives you plenty of options for recording (search this forum for info on Rockbox). Great little units -- I have an H120 that I like a lot. I don't use mine for taping, but instead as a portable FLAC file player.
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no idea on a 16 bit recording, but a 4gb card run as a WAV 24/48 will be right at 4 hours.
Works out well, as 4 hours of run time is a good time to change the rechargeable batteries and the card all at the same time
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Thanks lads. The answer will be to just buy a few extra cards. Perfect. I really don't wanna lug my laptop 'round the States. I like to travel light.
Are the Edirol's pretty user-friendly? I think the cheapest way for me to get one is to get one when I start the tour (I'm doing 6 or 7 shows: 2 in Camden NJ, 2 at MSG in NY, 2 in Boston and maybe start the tour in Virginia Beach. Would I be able to come to grips with it quick enough? It's just that I can't find a shop in Ireland that has them, the UK stores are excessively priced, and postage from the US for one of these little crackers is $100.
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I have one here in the states I am trying to unload for US$300 plus paypal fees, and shipping... PM me if you are interested. It has been used only 3-4 times and stored in the original box.
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I also recommend the R-09, if cost is a problem, arrange to buy one when you arrive in USA, I'd go with a 4GB card, bring your lappy and just transfer data after each show.
Did some tapin' in the UK last fall, took laptop, R-4, R-09, JB3, cables, mics with me, although i did resort to buying a mic stand when i got there!
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Are the Edirol's pretty user-friendly?
Extremely user-friendly. You could buy it on your way to the first show and have it figured out by the time you get to the venue.
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Thanks lads. Yis are great. Feel free to keep on with the advice ;D
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Given exchange rates/shipping/taxes, you'll save a bundle buying equipment in the US. You should search the web a little to find out if there is a good music shop near your first stop; you could call them and get them to hold a recorder for you (although they might want a credit card number or something). Otherwise, you can order on-line and have it shipped to your hotel (make sure to call the hotel and tell them you are expecting a delivery). If you take up gmm6797's offer, it will be more-or-less easy to arrange something...
Have a good time on your trip!
P.S. And just get a couple SD cards; they are cheap these days and it is nice to have a few cards around just in case...
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no idea on a 16 bit recording, but a 4gb card run as a WAV 24/48 will be right at 4 hours.
6 hrs, 25min @ 16bit on a 4gb card
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Does the R-09 have the same 2GB file limit as other recorders? Are the splits seemless?
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you will need over 2.5 hours per show for data at 24 bit in WAV. dont forget you dont only record when the band plays, its too difficult at times to stop and start its better to just let it roll on. You will need several SDHC cards. If you plan to cover PJ with just an r-09 you can keep it at home unless you want it for memories because the shows will be covered. So you will need close to 4gb per show of 24/48 files.
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its never a good idea to " try" an new recorder on a Band that you really want to record. You should practice.
the r0-9 files are seamless at 2gb.
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+T for visiting and helping to prop up our sagging economy. You'll find all sorts of things are ridiculously cheap here compared to Britain. Tell your friends to take their vacations in USA!
Flintstone
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If you know the 1st hotel you are booked into I am sure the hotel would accept a box for you, so that way you can get the R09 as soon as you check in... bring a SD card with you (assuming they are cheap where you can get one now)
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Thanks lads. Yis are great. Feel free to keep on with the advice ;D
The R09 is VERY user-friendly. I think I'd go a step further and say if you bought one at the show you'd figure it out in under five minutes (not that you can buy one at the show). The thing is VERY idiot proof compared to any other device I've worked with.
SDHC cards are pretty cheap in America right now (I'm in Canada, and we're paying under $30 for an 8GB Class 6 SDHC card). Everything I've read says CLASS 2 and higher are fine for the R09.
If you picked up two 8GB (around 13.5 hours PER card at 44.1/16), you'd probably have enough room for the shows (barely), so I'd recommend picking up a third card if you want to travel light. You might want to record at 48/24 which is the preferred rate these days but you drop to 8.25 hours PER card if you do this.
Enjoy the shows.