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Title: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Belexes on May 05, 2008, 04:48:56 PM
I am in the market for a new set of cans and was looking at the HD580's, but those are discontinued and only available used.

Am I right in thinking that the HD595's would be the 580s replacement?

Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: johnlynn on May 05, 2008, 04:55:24 PM
The replacement model for the HD-580 is the HD-600. Sennheiser then released the HD-650 as an improved version of the HD-600. I've had 580's for several years and have always found them pleasing.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: RebelRebel on May 05, 2008, 04:57:48 PM
The replacement model for the HD-580 is the HD-600. Sennheiser then released the HD-650 as an improved version of the HD-600. I've had 580's for several years and have always found them pleasing.


I highly, highly recommend the 600s. Great cans.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Belexes on May 05, 2008, 05:07:07 PM
 :hmmm:  600 series may throw me out of my price range, but I'll certainly give them a look.

I have some Beyer Dynamic DT770's right now and just looking for another flavor.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Chuck on May 05, 2008, 06:25:25 PM
I have the HD-600's. I love them.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: George on May 06, 2008, 08:45:12 AM
Try buying used, check out audigon and head-fi.  I have a pair of them and they are nice cans, they just need a serious amp to sound great...they scale with your gear which is great.

Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Belexes on May 06, 2008, 10:44:21 AM
Anyone do a Cardas Audio cable upgrade to your Senns?  Worth the money spent?  I see Headroom offers this upgrade.  I plan on using this set of cans at home exclusively for reference.  I do have a headphone amp to drive my current cans.

The 600's and 650's do look tempting. I may just pull the trigger. Someone is selling new 650's at Audiogon for $322 shipped.

Ts
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: noahbickart on May 06, 2008, 10:52:38 AM
Don't ignore the AKG k701 in this price range (they can be had for as little as $240). I prefer them to the Senn sound, though many others disagree.

-Noah
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Belexes on May 06, 2008, 11:20:39 AM
Don't ignore the AKG k701 in this price range (they can be had for as little as $240). I prefer them to the Senn sound, though many others disagree.

-Noah

+T on the avatar.  Kids need good cans. ;D
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: RebelRebel on May 06, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
Anyone do a Cardas Audio cable upgrade to your Senns?  Worth the money spent?  I see Headroom offers this upgrade.  I plan on using this set of cans at home exclusively for reference.  I do have a headphone amp to drive my current cans.

The 600's and 650's do look tempting. I may just pull the trigger. Someone is selling new 650's at Audiogon for $322 shipped.

Ts

No, but I did do the Foam Mod (http://apuresound.com/hdsennmod.html)

and it definitely is nice.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: RebelRebel on May 06, 2008, 12:06:47 PM
Anyone do a Cardas Audio cable upgrade to your Senns?  Worth the money spent?  I see Headroom offers this upgrade.  I plan on using this set of cans at home exclusively for reference.  I do have a headphone amp to drive my current cans.

The 600's and 650's do look tempting. I may just pull the trigger. Someone is selling new 650's at Audiogon for $322 shipped.

Ts

If you dont like them, hell I will buy the things from you. I need another pair anyway..but I am very confident that youll love them.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on May 06, 2008, 12:07:35 PM
I'll fluff the Beyer DT880.   They rock the party with a warm amp...
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: edtyre on May 06, 2008, 03:33:30 PM
I have the 580's and the 650's

The 580's are more comfy and light to wear
and have a very neutral sound. The 650's are
more lush sounding. Can't go wrong with either one.

I don't have the Cardas cable, but i do have one of these
http://apuresound.com/v3.html

This will take the quality up a level but are VERY pricey.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Jammin72 on May 06, 2008, 10:14:09 PM
The HD-580's and 600's use the same drivers.  You just get the Metal Grilles and Carbon Headband with the change in model.  Pick up a pair of the 580's and pop in the 600 grilles, very very sweet sounding setup for the money.  The 650's are slightly more laid back, a touch more forgiving but they're not near twice the can which is what you end up paying for them.

If you're going to invest in the Cardas cable you should consider moving to a balanced rig...  >:D

The 595's are a different lower impedance beast with a much more forward sound.

Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Belexes on May 09, 2008, 07:34:26 PM
Snagged a used pair of 650's from Ebay for $300..only used 2-3 times so the seller says.  Will need some more burn-in time. ;D
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Jammin72 on May 09, 2008, 09:38:39 PM
Snagged a used pair of 650's from Ebay for $300..only used 2-3 times so the seller says.  Will need some more burn-in time. ;D


Nice!!  Enjoy.  Senns have such a wonderful open soundstage, you'll love 'em!!
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Belexes on May 17, 2008, 01:45:48 PM
Hmmm...the 650s seem very bright and forward.  Not sure if I will hang onto them, but will give them more of a try.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Jammin72 on May 20, 2008, 06:28:33 PM
Hmmm...the 650s seem very bright and forward.  Not sure if I will hang onto them, but will give them more of a try.


Wow.... wait for a little more burn-in, this is the exact opposite of what most of the complaints about the cans happen to be.

What is the source?
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Gutbucket on May 20, 2008, 07:33:03 PM
Warning: subjective opinion follows-
I listened to a bunch of cans a few weeks back at Head-Fi's annual Can Jam that happened to be in town.  I found I really liked the 650's especially for the bit of top end extension and clarity that I found missing in the 600's by comparison, and found that as many report, they needed good power to really sound right.  650's were everywhere there so I got to listen to them though lots of different rigs and really liked the HeadRoom Ultra Micro and Desktop amps with them where they sounded great.  The 650's were less 'laid back' Senn sounding, but still lush, and not nearly as bright as the AKG sound (at least the 701's I listened to and also liked but seemed to have some upper midrange peaks that grated on me and made them a bit too bright for my ear).  I really feel in love with the Stax sound (never listened to them before) but made the mistake of listening to the 'expensive pair' as well as the more reasonable ones.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: Chuck on May 20, 2008, 08:43:59 PM
Warning: subjective opinion follows-
I listened to a bunch of cans a few weeks back at Head-Fi's annual Can Jam that happened to be in town.  I found I really liked the 650's especially for the bit of top end extension and clarity that I found missing in the 600's by comparison, and found that as many report, they needed good power to really sound right.  650's were everywhere there so I got to listen to them though lots of different rigs and really liked the HeadRoom Ultra Micro and Desktop amps with them where they sounded great.  The 650's were less 'laid back' Senn sounding, but still lush, and not nearly as bright as the AKG sound (at least the 701's I listened to and also liked but seemed to have some upper midrange peaks that grated on me and made them a bit too bright for my ear).  I really feel in love with the Stax sound (never listened to them before) but made the mistake of listening to the 'expensive pair' as well as the more reasonable ones.

I've had the 600's for a while now. I really like the laid back, sound they have. For me, it's just what I need to hear when I listen critically to music. I still have not found my *ideal* headphones for pleasure listening. I was hoping the ER-6's were *it*. I wish I had auditioned the ER-6i's as I think they may be closer to what I really want. I do find the 6's (with custom ear molds) to be very good for monitoring during shows.
Title: Re: Sennheiser headphones question
Post by: symon on July 09, 2008, 08:41:43 AM
Anyone got any views on the Sennheiser 570s. I can pick up a pair very cheap - but it would be nice to know what people think of them.