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Title: taping on a boat ?
Post by: bl6216@yahoo.com on May 18, 2008, 05:36:28 PM
 I am going to see Bill Kreutzmann, Oteil Burbridge & Scott Murawski Aboard The Temptress witch is a boat. I have not ever taped on a boat before and want to know what I am in for. The only thing that comes to mind that I should think about is wind. Any help would be grateful.



-Brian
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: rokpunk on May 18, 2008, 06:12:31 PM
beware of pirates.



/arrrrrrr
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: scottsch3 on May 18, 2008, 06:37:12 PM
The stage on the Temptress is inside.  Wind shouldn't be too much of an issue even though they do open up the windows for air flow.  There is an out of the way spot between the two staircases at the back of the floor where I have setup before.  I've also just clamped to the balcony railing and stack taped.  I think I preferred the stack tape just because the crowds on the boat tend to be a little "chatty" (imagine that on a booze cruise ;D). 

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: Belexes on May 18, 2008, 08:39:41 PM
Make sure to tip Issac.

(http://www.supakoo.com/rick/ricoblog/content/binary/isaac.jpg)
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: odartman on May 18, 2008, 10:15:33 PM
Use tape ;D
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: coloartist on May 18, 2008, 11:37:41 PM
I also clamped off the stairwell across from the stage, to the rear of the room.
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: sunjan on May 19, 2008, 09:28:31 AM
The stage on the Temptress is inside.  Wind shouldn't be too much of an issue even though they do open up the windows for air flow. 

I think I preferred the stack tape just because the crowds on the boat tend to be a little "chatty" (imagine that on a booze cruise ;D). 

I tape on this boat a few times every year: http://www.blidosundsbolaget.se/index.php (http://www.blidosundsbolaget.se/index.php)

Scott is right on. The passengers aren't always into the music, since companies bring their staff for booze cruises. There's a lot of walking around, huffing and puffing, and spilling beer on other passengers if you're close to a staircase or a door, steer clear of those areas. The rockier the ride gets, the more beer gets spilled. Cover your gearbag with plastic if you're at risk! ;-)

Anyway, you should make sure to be there early, if possible before the doors open. It's tricky to find the sweet spot on a boat because of space constraints, and it also depends if it's an "all seated" gig or not.

And don't be late! You can't "walk in" once the boat takes off! ;-)

I never had wind issues either, although the windows are usually open here too.
The nice thing about boat gigs is that the band have to make their way from the dress room to the stage, so you get a chance to meet and talk to them...

Good luck!
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: rokpunk on May 19, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
rhythmic diesel thump at 1600rpm?

PA system generator hum at 60hz?
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: morst on May 21, 2008, 02:05:16 AM
Spring reverbs going BOOOOOIIIIINNNNNGGGGG when you go over another boat's wake!?
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: coloartist on May 22, 2008, 12:16:19 PM
This recording was made in the rear of the boat clamped to a rail, next to mine.

http://www.archive.org/details/outformation2006-09-14.cfox.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/outformation2006-09-14.cfox.flac16)

Never mind. He matrixed it with the SBD.  ::)
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: morst on May 22, 2008, 11:53:13 PM
Here's a straight-up audience recording of a boat gig, complete with reverb tank crunches from the wakes of the jokers in the speedboat who were circling around the Tom Sawyer!!

http://www.archive.org/details/dixie1991-06-30-flac

Band/Artist: Blue Dixie
Date: June 30, 1991
Venue: Riverboat Tom Sawyer
Location: Lake Ozark MO

Source: Sony F-PV200 dynamic mics > MCAS (DBX encoded)
Lineage: MCAS > DBX decoder > Protools > FLAC
Taped by: JL/ TAS
Title: Re: taping on a boat ?
Post by: cd2go on May 25, 2008, 01:35:05 AM
Yeah I would agree with trying a stack recording here, or run a tight card pattern as the sound is less than optimal...here is a recording I made with omnis 15' back from stage, 8' high, DFC:

http://www.archive.org/details/localh2005-06-12-live2cd.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/localh2005-06-12-live2cd.flac16)

I'm sure there are more samples if you search the Archive.

-james