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Title: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: AlexG on June 13, 2008, 03:11:33 AM: I'm trying something new, kinda a mono-matrix I guess you could call it. (I'm sure I'm not the first)

I plugged one Avatone CK-1 Omni into the right channel of the HD-P2. I hung the mic above the stage just a hair behind the mains in the center (see pic)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/asg1290/PIC-0048.jpg)
I plugged the main out from the soundboard into the left channel. That only had vocals, kick, & mandolin.

Just playing it as is sounds much better than I anticipated. Just wondering what some of you all would do with this source?

Thanks

Alex
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: run_run_run on June 13, 2008, 09:44:14 AM: Personally I hate fake Stereo allot, so I would keep it mono and mess with the percentages for hours.
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: Scooter on June 13, 2008, 11:20:17 AM: I second that. Get the ratio btwn the overhead and the sbd feed, then mix to 2 channel mono.
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: nedstruzz on June 13, 2008, 02:18:34 PM: I would be inclined to try and make two channels of each, pan them as you see fit and then matrix them. But thats just me.
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: AlexG on June 13, 2008, 03:55:21 PM: Well I split the two stereo tracks into two mono tracks messed with the levels some and bounced it.

I'm pretty happy with the results. If anybody is curious I just seeded it
http://cotapers.org/BT/can2008-06-11.mmatrix.flac16.txt (http://cotapers.org/BT/can2008-06-11.mmatrix.flac16.txt)
http://cotapers.org/BT/can2008-06-11.mmatrix.flac16.torrent (http://cotapers.org/BT/can2008-06-11.mmatrix.flac16.torrent)

I can see myself doing this more as it's simple and sounds good. Ts all around for the advice!
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: stantheman1976 on June 13, 2008, 10:34:50 PM: It turned out pretty good to my ears. It proves that experimenting is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: illconditioned on June 14, 2008, 01:49:36 AM: I did this once when one channel of my mics crapped out. I had 2 mics + 2 sbd (mono) into my R4. I just mixed the one mic with the soundboard. I think I mixed most (or all?) sbd to one channel, mic to the other. It turned out pretty good.

Other people have told me they do this when they only have a two track recorder.

Richard
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: morst on June 14, 2008, 04:57:53 AM: I would consider not mixing it at all. Circulate it as-is and leave the post-processing "as an exercise for the students!" >:D
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: stantheman1976 on June 14, 2008, 01:23:12 PM: That's a good idea. Make sure the tracks are synced and cut as one file and let others experiment. I would import into Vegas and play around with panning the channels. However, it is Alex's recording so if that's not what he doesn't want people changing what he did I would understand.
Title: Re: How would you mix this 2 track recording? 1 Omni and 1 Mono SBD
Post by: AlexG on June 14, 2008, 04:59:51 PM: Quote from: stantheman1976 on June 14, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
That's a good idea. Make sure the tracks are synced and cut as one file and let others experiment. I would import into Vegas and play around with panning the channels. However, it is Alex's recording so if that's not what he doesn't want people changing what he did I would understand.
I'll post the original 24/44 wavs if you all want to play around with it. I don't want to chop it up what would be the best way to get it somebody besided seeding via a torrent?