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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: Matt Quinn on July 24, 2008, 10:21:38 AM
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Item in question:
http://www.archive.org/details/db2008-07-17.mk21.flac16
I populated the fields automatically, and it somehow screwed it up. I renamed the files manually & rederived, and everything looks fine except the stream player. Does that require something special to fix?
Thanks in advance.
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Item in question:
http://www.archive.org/details/db2008-07-17.mk21.flac16
I populated the fields automatically, and it somehow screwed it up. I renamed the files manually & rederived, and everything looks fine except the stream player. Does that require something special to fix?
Thanks in advance.
Did you delete the old mp3's? I believe you have to "check the item out" and delete all of them in your FTP client, then you can rederive. Unfortunately the rederive (edit)on it's own(edit) does not get rid of the old/bad ones, not much of a problem once you know about (edit) the need to delete the old mp3's(edit).
*edited for clarification*
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I didn't delete anything. I went to Edit Item, Item Manager, changed all the names of the files appropriately, then hit 'rederive'. The files themselves *are* now labeled properly, it's ust the stupid stream player.
thanks though, +t. I'll try deleting if I can't get it fixed.
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I'll fix it for you...admins have a tool that can automatically delete the derived files and rederive so you don't risk deleting FLACs or other files.
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Interesting thread, I have had the same experieince myself. I just figured I did the fat finger and to live with it. I did the same things, checked out, re-derived, checked in but I have a problem also with the way the songs got laid out.
http://www.archive.org/details/SAJB2008-05-23.CEMC6-ck21
In the "Audio files" Section the first 2 songs listed are actually the last 2. The setlist document is correct. Any thoughts on what I may have fat fingered and how to correct?
Thanks to all, still learning and still enjoying the journey to find my perfect pull,
Tim
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Cool, looks like greenone will take care of it for you.
In rereading my post I thought I should this (v) statement...
Unfortunately the rederive does not get rid of the old/bad ones, not much of a problem once you know about it though.
the rederive function on its own won't get rid of the old/bad, you(or one of the admins ;)) need to delete the mp3's ect... for it to come back with the updated data.
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I'll fix it for you...admins have a tool that can automatically delete the derived files and rederive so you don't risk deleting FLACs or other files.
sweet, thank you! and +t!
FWIW, I was just told by a person I know that the cause of this is the fact that a couple of the songs (7-11 & 42) start with numbers. I think that makes the Archive skip over them & grab things like the setlist notes for song titles.
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I'll fix it for you...admins have a tool that can automatically delete the derived files and rederive so you don't risk deleting FLACs or other files.
sweet, thank you! and +t!
FWIW, I was just told by a person I know that the cause of this is the fact that a couple of the songs (7-11 & 42) start with numbers. I think that makes the Archive skip over them & grab things like the setlist notes for song titles.
Yes - that messes up the original metadata import; you need to manually check that info when you get to the first metadata editor (the light blue screen where you fill in the venue/source info). The parser is pretty good but not perfect. :)
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I'll fix it for you...admins have a tool that can automatically delete the derived files and rederive so you don't risk deleting FLACs or other files.
Since the subject has been brought up.....do you think that you could fix a show for me? It was the first one that I uploaded to the archive and I didn't have a full setlist at the time. I'd try to do it myself, but I'm scared that I'd screw it up.
http://www.archive.org/details/cornmeal2008-03-28.sbd.flac16
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You got it...just queued it up for a rederive, take a look this afternoon and see if it's ok.
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+T Greenone! most kind of you to lend a hand. Sending my Good LMA Karma your way!
All the best,
Tim
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You got it...just queued it up for a rederive, take a look this afternoon and see if it's ok.
Awesome. Thank you very much! I would've tried it myself, but that show has over 1300 downloads and I didn't wanna screw up and erase that stat (yes, I know that I'm a dork).
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Interesting thread, I have had the same experieince myself. I just figured I did the fat finger and to live with it. I did the same things, checked out, re-derived, checked in but I have a problem also with the way the songs got laid out.
http://www.archive.org/details/SAJB2008-05-23.CEMC6-ck21
In the "Audio files" Section the first 2 songs listed are actually the last 2. The setlist document is correct. Any thoughts on what I may have fat fingered and how to correct?
Thanks to all, still learning and still enjoying the journey to find my perfect pull,
Tim
the reason you have a problem is that you erroniously labeled tracks 23 and 24 with a capital 'S' in 'Set'
SAJB2008-05-23_16_Set123_Encore_Crowd_Intro.flac
SAJB2008-05-23_16_Set124_Encore_Bluegrass_in_the_Backwoods.flac
vs
SAJB2008-05-23_16_set101_Crowd_Intro.flac
causing those two tracks to 'sort' higher up and throw off everything (song names / stream / etc).
TO FIX IT:
1. 'checkout' the show (click edit item', then 'item manager' then 'checkout'
2. go to the FTP it tells you to. re-name the flac files. you do NOT need to re-upload. just change the file name.
3. delete all the non-seed files (mp3s, m3u, etc. KEEP the xml files
4. 'checkin' the show
5. go to the show page, click 'edit item' and make sure all the files are named right (the auto-parser should help now that the files are sorted right).
6. click 'submit'
7. go to the show page again, click 'edit item' then 'item manager' then 'derive'
that should re-run them with the right names.
good luck, post here if you have problems.
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If you rename files, you will probably have to delete the FFP and/or md5 files, and upload new ones since they will no longer check perfectly.
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Interesting thread, I have had the same experieince myself. I just figured I did the fat finger and to live with it. I did the same things, checked out, re-derived, checked in but I have a problem also with the way the songs got laid out.
http://www.archive.org/details/SAJB2008-05-23.CEMC6-ck21
In the "Audio files" Section the first 2 songs listed are actually the last 2. The setlist document is correct. Any thoughts on what I may have fat fingered and how to correct?
Thanks to all, still learning and still enjoying the journey to find my perfect pull,
Tim
the reason you have a problem is that you erroniously labeled tracks 23 and 24 with a capital 'S' in 'Set'
SAJB2008-05-23_16_Set123_Encore_Crowd_Intro.flac
SAJB2008-05-23_16_Set124_Encore_Bluegrass_in_the_Backwoods.flac
vs
SAJB2008-05-23_16_set101_Crowd_Intro.flac
causing those two tracks to 'sort' higher up and throw off everything (song names / stream / etc).
TO FIX IT:
1. 'checkout' the show (click edit item', then 'item manager' then 'checkout'
2. go to the FTP it tells you to. re-name the flac files. you do NOT need to re-upload. just change the file name.
3. delete all the non-seed files (mp3s, m3u, etc. KEEP the xml files
4. 'checkin' the show
5. go to the show page, click 'edit item' and make sure all the files are named right (the auto-parser should help now that the files are sorted right).
6. click 'submit'
7. go to the show page again, click 'edit item' then 'item manager' then 'derive'
that should re-run them with the right names.
good luck, post here if you have problems.
Thanks, I will get on this shortly and thanks for pointing out my error, next goal do not repeat the mistake expecting different outcomes.
Tim