Hi all,
I have an Edirol R-09 and SP-CMC-8 cards, together with a battery box. I always tape line in on the R-09. Anyway, recently I taped Madonna at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium and I ran mic in by mistake. I didn't realise until after the show and I thought the recording would be awful. However, when I got home and listened to the recording it turned out really well, one of the best recordings I have made.
I have always thought and read on this site that line in was the way to go when using a battery box. I guess my question is should I continue to use mic in for future recordings or revert back to line in.
Thanks guys.
Line in. There's less noise with that input.
My choice is always line in. Anyway, I'd love to hear the sample if you can.
Quote from: thespangleman on September 09, 2008, 03:34:30 PM
I have always thought and read on this site that line in was the way to go when using a battery box. I guess my question is should I continue to use mic in for future recordings or revert back to line in.
It depends on how much gain you need. If you need more gain, use mic-in. If your line-in jack breaks do the same. I had one of the first R-09 line-in jack failures a few years back and switched to using the mic-in for a few months until I could send it in to Roland for repair. I just cut back on the gain a bit on both the recorder and preamp and I don't hear any extra noise on those recordings, many of quiet performances. I'd use whichever input puts you closer to the center of the available gain adjustment on the R-09 (13-17 range).
When you say the 13 - 17 range do you mean the INPUT level when setting the buttons on the side ?
Thanks,
NT
Quote from: Gutbucket on September 09, 2008, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: thespangleman on September 09, 2008, 03:34:30 PM
I have always thought and read on this site that line in was the way to go when using a battery box. I guess my question is should I continue to use mic in for future recordings or revert back to line in.
It depends on how much gain you need. If you need more gain, use mic-in. If your line-in jack breaks do the same. I had one of the first R-09 line-in jack failures a few years back and switched to using the mic-in for a few months until I could send it in to Roland for repair. I just cut back on the gain a bit on both the recorder and preamp and I don't hear any extra noise on those recordings, many of quiet performances. I'd use whichever input puts you closer to the center of the available gain adjustment on the R-09 (13-17 range).
Yes.
That's what I shoot for. I set the external preamp gain beforehand and I'm usually close enough that I don't need to adjust anything, but if I was off far enough on my guess I'll make a gain adjustment on the R-09 from that middle of the road setting of 14 or so and end up closer to 10 or 20. I just try to avoid the extreme settings below 10 and above 20, but if I needed to use those settings to get levels right I would. (well, except 0 which = mute)
My line jack is broken, and I use mic-in all the time. Great results, just watch your input gain. IME, the mic-in runs about 8dB hotter than the line-in. YMMV.
Interesting replies, thanks guys. Even though I used the mic input, I still had the recording level on the R-09 set to 27! Having said that, it did have the gain set to low and use low sensitivity modded mics. Here is a short sample.
Quote from: thespangleman on September 10, 2008, 09:00:20 AM
Interesting replies, thanks guys. Even though I used the mic input, I still had the recording level on the R-09 set to 27! Having said that, it did have the gain set to low and use low sensitivity modded mics. Here is a short sample.
The low sens mod on the CMC-8s significantly reduces the output of the mics, acting as an attenuator, so what you are saying is exactly what should be happening.