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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: amfortas2006 on September 24, 2008, 07:04:59 AM

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Question: cheap(er) copy of the ums20 schoeps microphone bar?
Option 1: schoeps ums20 stereo bar? votes: 4
Option 2: schoeps ums20 alternative? votes: 5
Title: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: amfortas2006 on September 24, 2008, 07:04:59 AM
It is really expencive for what it is.

http://www.schoeps.de/D-2004/ums20.html

But I have a normal stereo bar, and always have trouble setting up my schoeps for ORTF or DIN...

So, I wouldnt want to waste a lot of money for just a bar, and I need the very same functionality of that bar?

Thanks
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: jerryfreak on September 24, 2008, 03:38:45 PM
there are some options, i cant remember the name, nick told me about it a month ago, he had a picture with 4 mics mounted.


the ums20 come up now and again for $300 used, which is still expensive but its a fine piece of machinery
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: jerryfreak on September 25, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
i think the copy was a 'sabra'
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: TNJazz on September 25, 2008, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: jerryfreak on September 25, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
i think the copy was a 'sabra'

Yes, the Sabra-Som mount is probably the most similar.  It's still pretty different though, and I don't believe it has any of the markings the Schoeps bar has.
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: jerryfreak on September 25, 2008, 06:29:35 PM
well, the schoeps bar actually has detents that snap into place, not just markings

Quote from: TNJazz on September 25, 2008, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: jerryfreak on September 25, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
i think the copy was a 'sabra'

Yes, the Sabra-Som mount is probably the most similar.  It's still pretty different though, and I don't believe it has any of the markings the Schoeps bar has.
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: Kyle on September 25, 2008, 06:39:15 PM
The ums-20 is quite expensive but IMO worth it. I picked one up a few years back and love it. For quick setups you can be dialed in to ORTF, DIN, DIN-A, etc. in seconds. My recordings have definitly improved because it is so easy to set the mics up perfectly - I have been in a  hurry or had an off-day and this has saved me.

It's just too cool for skool ;D
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: Chimney Top on July 21, 2013, 02:47:56 AM
bump.


anything recent that has the features of the Schoeps bar for under $500?
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: John Willett on July 21, 2013, 04:31:40 AM
There are better bars than the Schoeps - but they are more expensive, not cheaper.
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: H₂O on July 21, 2013, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Chimney Top on July 21, 2013, 02:47:56 AM
bump.


anything recent that has the features of the Schoeps bar for under $500?

Grace Spacebar

http://www.gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_modular.html

http://www.gracedesign.com/products/spacebar/spacebar_purchase.html
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: followinbob on July 25, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
i have something similar but never finished it. i do have bars on the reail space that do the same thing but they are not  engraved. i would do so but it would increase price. is what it is. my machining center was 70,000 new and i cos money to run the machines and to keep the shop 72 degrees a all times.
if there were an inerest i would alter the wide bars with a scale and could actually make a sliding riser at a perfect 90 and 110 degrees.
Title: Re: Copy of the ums20 Schoeps bar?
Post by: jhfinn on July 26, 2013, 05:42:00 PM
Wes Dooley of AEA also offers a few bad ass stereo bars. Pricey but still less expensive than the schoeps version.
http://www.ribbonmics.com/aea/Microphone_Array_Positioners.html

Regards,
Jim
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