Taperssection.com

Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: Bilal on September 25, 2008, 04:57:15 AM

Title: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: Bilal on September 25, 2008, 04:57:15 AM
I just have ordered the R-09HR and I want to make interview recordings with it. The locations will not be in a studio or whatsoever, but it will be in public/houses and their may be more than one person talking.

The PIP feature on this R-09HR recorder sources up to +2.9 volts for powering external mics. This is what I want to use for powering the chosen mic. I don't want to carry extra sources for powering the mic separately.

I have looked at the DSM microphones at sonicstudios, and I liked it to see them clipped on the eyewear, because of the hiddenes of it. But unfortunately they can't be powered from the PIP feature. Besides this, I do not know if this technology is the best suited technology for interview recordings.

Thank you.
Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: digifish_music on September 25, 2008, 05:34:47 AM
I just have ordered the R-09HR and I want to make interview recordings with it. The locations will not be in a studio or whatsoever, but it will be in public/houses and their may be more than one person talking.

The PIP feature on this R-09HR recorder sources up to +2.9 volts for powering external mics. This is what I want to use for powering the chosen mic. I don't want to carry extra sources for powering the mic separately.

I have looked at the DSM microphones at sonicstudios, and I liked it to see them clipped on the eyewear, because of the hiddenes of it. But unfortunately they can't be powered from the PIP feature. Besides this, I do not know if this technology is the best suited technology for interview recordings.

Thank you.

You can make your own (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,94446.0.html) $20 :)

I also have some Sound Professional SP-TFB-2's (http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-TFB-2) that sound identical to the home-made ones (i.e very good) but have some nice binaural clips $69. 

These would be great for interviews...listen to some of my spoken recordings R09/R09HR + SP or Home-Made)...

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=53799 (bird show, outdoor recording)
 
http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=53384 (brewery tour, indoor recording)

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=53453 (cave, outdoor-into-cave)

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=38583 (bat cave, outdoor-into-cave)

work OK for ambient FX too..

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=34777 (thunder, outdoors)

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=33392 (restaurant, indoor recording)

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=38570 (didgeridoo)

digifish
Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: Bilal on September 25, 2008, 06:19:43 AM
Would these binaural clips give beter recording quality than the internal mics (2?) of the R-09HR?
Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: digifish_music on September 25, 2008, 06:57:22 AM
Would these binaural clips give beter recording quality than the internal mics (2?) of the R-09HR?

Yes.

digifish
Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: Bilal on September 25, 2008, 07:58:12 AM
Would these binaural clips give beter recording quality than the internal mics (2?) of the R-09HR?

Yes.

digifish

Thank you, i will give it a try to build it myself.
Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: digifish_music on September 25, 2008, 07:04:02 PM
Would these binaural clips give beter recording quality than the internal mics (2?) of the R-09HR?

Yes.

digifish

Thank you, i will give it a try to build it myself.

Tip for quick-matching the output of capsules.

1. Put a bunch of capsules (in a line) face-down on a speaker laying on it's back (you need something with a smooth flat grille, radio?)
2. Tune the radio to FM hiss.
3. Plug the de-soldered headphone lead into your recorder and put into record mode so you can see the levels.
4. Work your way along the line of caps manually connecting the leads to the cap terminals, note the recording level.
5. Pick two that are closest. While you are there match up the rest into pairs for later.

digifish


Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: Bilal on September 26, 2008, 05:57:02 AM
Alright, but I've already chosen the sp-tfb-2, because I couldn't find any capsules nearby.

But for future reference this may be useful. You tell me to put a bunch of it on a line, do you mean by this that the capsules may have a big range quality between each capsule and for this reason the testing should be done for best results by choosing two of them?

Also I have another question, I read in the manual of the sp-tfb-2 that it's also possible to record with the mic from the line in jack. Ofcourse this is without the powering of the PIP feature, but do you know of any big quality differences between the mic jack and line-in jack recording with this mic?

Thank you.
Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: rastasean on September 26, 2008, 10:46:26 AM
The Sound Professional SP-TFB-2 microphones are great!
I wouldn't think of them as interview microphones but good luck to you.
Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: digifish_music on September 26, 2008, 07:00:58 PM
The Sound Professional SP-TFB-2 microphones are great!
I wouldn't think of them as interview microphones but good luck to you.

Laid on a desk/table between two people (as a pair of boundary mics) they work great. All my examples of speech they were in or over my ears.

digifish

Title: Re: What are The best interview mic's for the R-09HR working on the PIP feature?
Post by: digifish_music on September 26, 2008, 10:01:01 PM

But for future reference this may be useful. You tell me to put a bunch of it on a line, do you mean by this that the capsules may have a big range quality between each capsule and for this reason the testing should be done for best results by choosing two of them?

Also I have another question, I read in the manual of the sp-tfb-2 that it's also possible to record with the mic from the line in jack. Ofcourse this is without the powering of the PIP feature, but do you know of any big quality differences between the mic jack and line-in jack recording with this mic?

Thank you.

They can have differences of a few dB. If they are faulty they may not produce any output. Most times I have done this the majority of caps are indistinguishable on an R09/R09HR peak-display.

The mics don't work without PIP. I have never got a signal from the line-in jack.

digifish