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Title: Archiving media
Post by: tmwsiy on November 20, 2008, 05:07:32 PM
Hey guys. Was just wondering what people are doing these days  ;D
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: Brian Skalinder on November 20, 2008, 05:23:12 PM
To me, effective archiving means ensuring my data is stored in at least 3 different places, preferably one of them offsite.  FWIW, I didn't answer the poll question because selecting a single answer in the poll wouldn't accurately reflect my primary media, since it's mixed media (mirrored HDDs, optical media, and off-site HDD).  Two links:

Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: Jhurlbs81 on November 20, 2008, 05:59:53 PM
I burn the original wavs to DVDR before I listen or do anything in an editor.  Thats me just being anal and extra cautious.  I feel pretty safe once I have the original files on DVDR and they verify. All the tracked 24 and 16 bit FLACS go onto externals and circulated through etree/archive.   

(I really need make offsite copies though...)
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: rastasean on November 20, 2008, 06:25:15 PM
what about CDs?
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: RobertNC on November 20, 2008, 06:43:55 PM
I am relying on DVDs right now - I use the 4.7s because there is not a lot of reliable information on realistic lifetimes of DVD media and I figure it is reasonable to assume that as dye and data density go up disc lifetime goes down.

Terabyte drives are really affordable, so sometime in the near future I am gonna setup a box with a couple of terabytes.
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: datbrad on November 21, 2008, 11:25:36 AM
I archive my raw master files on 2 DVDs, one DVD-R and one DVD+R, due to the differences in the way they are structured and not knowing which one has the longest total life expectancy/future format compatability. I keep the converted and tracked files on external HD as well.
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: edtyre on November 21, 2008, 02:53:03 PM
I use all hard drives. At my home i have a drive and a backup drive
i store all my masters raw and tracked.

I have a 3rd hard drive stored offsite. So each 500 gigs i accumulate
i have 3 drives. I also put each of my shows on cdr and leave all of these
offsite.

If i have a total failure at home, i will have back-ups off site on
hard drive (one week behind, so i might lose my masters for 1 or 2 shows)
but will still have 16/44 cdr's.
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: John R on November 21, 2008, 04:02:51 PM
HD recording device @24>CD via analog, tracked on the fly.  Promoter gets copies at end of weekend.
HD recording device>2 outboard drives kept in separate locations.
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: lpmaskman on November 22, 2008, 06:14:17 AM
My collection on my HDD and SL DVD's. I don't have butlegz on CD's, usually listens my collection on PC.
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: sunjan on November 26, 2008, 06:01:51 PM
Anybody going for blu-ray yet? I didn't see that alternative listed...
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: stevetoney on November 27, 2008, 12:31:18 PM
DVDR and a harddrive for now.  Adding a second harddrive sometime soon because I consider DVDR backup to be a really lousy solution.  I've discovered that my DVDRs don't seem to be very universally readable...IOW, if the disc isn't written and read by the same machine, then there may be data read problems.  My experience anyway.
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: H₂O on November 27, 2008, 11:28:42 PM
You need at least 2 different mediums IMO.   I do DVD SL and HDD.  I would love a 4.5GB RAID 5 setup but just can't put the cash here yet for that - and can't wait for SSD's to get cheap!!!

Long term I would expect SSD and BluRay multilayer (8 layer+ -> if they can make the burners and media cheap enough).

Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: F.O.Bean on November 28, 2008, 01:47:05 AM
DVD5's ;) I burn 4 DVD-R's(Verbatim 1st Class Media) for EACH AND EVERY SET I RECORD ;)

DVD-R #1: 24-Bit RAW + Edited(Gain Added) WAVS as DATA
DVD-R #2: 24-Bit RAW + Edited(Gain Added) FLACS as DATA
DVD-R #3: 24-Bit Tracked FLACS as DATA
DVD-R #4: 16-Bit Tracked FLACS as DATA
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: fozzy on November 28, 2008, 10:15:09 AM
1: DVDR5, Verbatim Datalife Plus  (older stuff is on Datalife Plus CD-Rs)
2: HD, external drives

I keep the HDs at the house and DVDs @ the office
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: InfiniteOhms on January 08, 2009, 04:08:31 PM
I still use Cd-rs (because i have a bunch good quality cd-rs and only generic dvd-rs)...
So i try and keep 1 copy on Cd-r and one on a external HD/on archive.org. About 90% of my tapes from the last 3 years are on the LMA, I'm a big fan of that project (as well as a curator ;D)
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: rjp on January 08, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
Library: 1 TB RAID-5 array, using 3x500 GB drives (not full yet). I'm in the process of building a new file server, and in the process, the array will be expanded to 1.5 TB with a fourth 500 GB drive.
Backup: 1.5 TB hard drive in USB enclosure, using rsync to back up the files.
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: mblindsey on January 08, 2009, 10:39:25 PM

At some point the price of SDHC cards will get to the point where I just record a show once on them, transfer to "whatever" for listening, and throw the card in a case for archiving.  When I can buy a 4 or 8GB SDHC card for $1 or $2, I'll do that for shows I care about.  Can anyone point to anything that says SDHC isn't good for long term storage?   
Title: Re: Archiving media
Post by: china_rider on January 09, 2009, 12:10:47 AM
I run a Buffalo Terastation Live raid array.  The regular price is a bit expensive but if you hold out there are really good sales every few months.  I have the 4tb version  (holds about 3tb in raid) for less than I could have built a quality raid box with the same capacity.  On top of storage it has a good www interface to let you stream media to wherever you are at.  I also back up to the archive.  Also, all recordings go to a friend on DVD to store at his house in case all else fails.

http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage/terastation/terastation-live/