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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: antsyashley on January 31, 2009, 07:44:30 PM
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Hey y'all --
Here a sample of my recording with the brand new Tascam DR-07. It was also my very first taping experience. Hope ya enjoy it.
JJ Grey & Mofro
House of Blues
New Orleans, LA
01-29-09
Source: SP-BMC-2 binaurals (attached to NOLAfishwater's mic stand 10' up)>Tascam DR-07
Ho Cake: http://www.sendspace.com/file/
Sit-ins with Big Sam Williams and Mark Mullins on trombone
EDIT: This file is no longer available, but you can get the whole show on the archive. Check link below.
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Sounds good, Ashley! You might want to FLAC your sample files, makes for a lot faster download.
Dennis
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Thanks! I flac'ed everything, but thought I would upload a wav file for some reason. No need, I guess, since Winamp and other programs play flac.
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http://www.archive.org/details/JJGreyandMOFRO2009-01-28.jjgam2009-01-28.NOLA.flac16
Here's the show! The beginning sounds a little funny, but it clears up pretty quick.
JJ Grey & Mofro
01/28/2009
House of Blues - The Parish
New Orleans, LA
Source: SP-BMC-2 mini binaurals > Tascam DR-07
Transfer: Tascam DR-07 > Audacity > flac
Recording and transfer by AntsyAshley.
Disc One:
01. Intro
02. Everything Good Is Bad
03. Circles
04. WYLF
05. Ybor City
06. Lazy Fo Acre
07. Higher You Climb
08. 6 Ways
09. Orange Blossoms
10. War
11. I Believe
12. On Fire*
13. Move It On
Disc Two:
01. Jookhouse
02. Ho Cake**
03. Stagger Lee**
Encore 1:
04. Lochloosa
05. Got My Mojo Workin'
Encore 2:
06. How Junior Got His Head Put Out
* With Big Sam Williams on trombone
** With Big Sam Williams and Mark Mullins on trombone
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Thanks Ashley! Recording sounds great. Might have to pick up the DR07 so I can compare to the DR-1. DR07 has a nice warm sound like the DR-1.
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Comparison of the 1 and the 7 at NAMM. Looks like the 7 is a stripped down 1, which is fine, cuz I don't need all the extras that comes with the 1.
http://www.podcastingnews.com/2009/01/19/namm-tascam-dr1-dr07-digital-recorders/
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Comparison of the 1 and the 7 at NAMM. Looks like the 7 is a stripped down 1, which is fine, cuz I don't need all the extras that comes with the 1.
http://www.podcastingnews.com/2009/01/19/namm-tascam-dr1-dr07-digital-recorders/
Nice link, spyder. Thanks.
And, antsy, thanks for the sample. Sounds good.
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If ya wanna hear the second show, it's here:
http://www.archive.org/details/jjgam2009-01-29.BR.flac16
JJ Grey & Mofro
01/29/2009
The Varsity
Baton Rouge, LA
Source: SP-BMC-2 mini binaurals > Tascam DR-07
Transfer: Tascam DR-07 > Audacity > flac
Recording and transfer by AntsyAshley.
Disc One:
01. Intro
02. Country Ghetto
03. WYLF
04. Mississippi
05. The Wrong Side
06. Everything Good is Bad
07. That Boy
08. Lochloosa
09. The Devil You Know
10. Ybor City
11. Air
12. Dew Drops
13. 6 Ways
Disc two:
01. Fireflies
02. Jookhouse
03. Hoochie Coochie Man
04. Higher You Climb
05. Ho Cake
06. War
Encore:
07. Orange Blossoms
08. Brighter Days
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Anyone have the guts to open this (or the older DR-01) up? I'd like to see the guts!
I'm guessing it is a "one chip" solution like the original Edirol R09. I may get one and try it out, but maybe someone else is curious too.
Thanks,
Richard
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So are you pleased with the whole taping thing and your results?
I think it sounds good.
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I am very satisfied and am having a lot of fun! All my equipment is so small I just keep it in a make-up bag, throw it in my purse, and set up in a couple of minutes. It's great! And it sounds way better than I ever expected!
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I can't seem to figure out anything about the built-in mics. I'm interested in this unit as a backup analog line-in and stealth device, but also in situations where I just want a simple, small all-in-one device for ambient. I use 480s > R44 for more serious recordings. Anyway, I was wondering if the built in mics were omnis or cards. Given their layout, I'm guessing omnis. Can't really figure it out from the spec sheets though. I've been thinking about an LS-10, but this is looking pretty nice and may not have the low pass problems, and for this kind of thing (for me personally at least), I'd prefer omnis.
Anyone actually know?
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Nice job! I wasn't familiar with Mofro, but I'm liking what I hear - both from the musical and sound quality standpoints. Good bass punch!
*checks mofro.net*
ARGH. No Chicago stop, and I can't get to any of the "nearby" shows due to other commitments.
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I've been thinking about an LS-10, but this is looking pretty nice and may not have the low pass problems, and for this kind of thing (for me personally at least), I'd prefer omnis.
The bass rolloff in the LS-10 can be EQ'ed out well enough. I constructed an EQ curve in Audacity based on the graph in this post (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,96477.msg1504736.html#msg1504736), and apply it to the recording as my second-to-last processing step, before the normalization pass. I haven't noticed any unwanted noise in my classical recordings from doing this.
However, the LS-10 mics are cards... which suit my purposes, at least. Still, the DR-7 looks very interesting in its own right - especially in light of my difficulties with the LCD-induced hum when I use external mics on the LS-10 and the LCD is pointing at my body.
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Nice job! I wasn't familiar with Mofro, but I'm liking what I hear - both from the musical and sound quality standpoints. Good bass punch!
*checks mofro.net*
ARGH. No Chicago stop, and I can't get to any of the "nearby" shows due to other commitments.
Well, they tour like maniacs. You should see their tour archive on that site. Just hang tight. They'll be back in your area some time. JJ is gonna take a small break this spring, but I'm sure they'll be back on the road in no time. They're my favorite band -- can't get enough. And nice guys, too. Last summer they did a lot of festivals, so you might see them doing that again. And JJ always has a new album in his head, so look for more good stuff to come.
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sounds good!
i have to say, im a HUGE fan of the sp-bmc-2 mics as well....ive had some excellent pulls with them.
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Has anyone checked the noise of the mic and line inputs of this machine?
-Colargol
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sounds good!
i have to say, im a HUGE fan of the sp-bmc-2 mics as well....ive had some excellent pulls with them.
What battery supply do you use with those? I just got the dr07/sp-bmc-2 combo.
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i use the church audio 9100 preamp, but from what i understand, unless your recording something REALLY loud, you should be able to use plugin power from the recorder just fine.
that being said, the CA9100 preamp is a great box, and well worth the money/wait to get one.
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The DR-07 has built in power for external mics. If you record using the internal mics, you select "Power: Off" in the menu. When plugging in the externals, you select "Power: On". It has worked beautifully for my recordings (loud shows!). I can record at least 3.5 hrs of music with one set of AA batteries, and with the mic power on.
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I have not yet recorded anything with the internal mics. I'll post something if and when I do. See this thread (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,115981.msg1566949.html#msg1566949 -- 9th post down) for a sample of a >:D recording.
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If I can post this here, I used the new DR07 last week at a club show by local [Brisbane Australia] band Del Toro. It was sitting on the front of the sound desk and using the internal mic. I also stood next to it and recorded the set with my old rig of Sound Pro Binaurals, Sound Pro Pre-Amp and Minidisc[MZ-NH600]. Sample mp3s of a song are hosted on Box.net here
http://www.box.net/shared/96zzmpdqu5
I was pleasantly surprised at the ability of the internal mics.
Next I'll try the binaurals as mic-in. I used the DR07 at a festival last weekend with the Binaural/pre-amp into Line-In and had mixed results. When I use the MD with them I just set the Gain Switch to 0db and the output level control to max and the system takes care of loud for me. With the DR07 that worked for really loud material [eg Mogwai] but to get any reasonable signal for not quite so loud stuff i had to set the Gain to the Low setting [22db] and play with the output level control. This worked fine for acoustic and moderately loud stuff but there was still some clipping on some recordings.. May take a whole to work out how best to use it but I'm happy enough to carry 2 spare 8GB sd cards instead of 20 Minidiscs.
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If I can post this here, I used the new DR07 last week at a club show by local [Brisbane Australia] band Del Toro. It was sitting on the front of the sound desk and using the internal mic. I also stood next to it and recorded the set with my old rig of Sound Pro Binaurals, Sound Pro Pre-Amp and Minidisc[MZ-NH600]. Sample mp3s of a song are hosted on Box.net here
http://www.box.net/shared/96zzmpdqu5
I was pleasantly surprised at the ability of the internal mics.
Next I'll try the binaurals as mic-in. I used the DR07 at a festival last weekend with the Binaural/pre-amp into Line-In and had mixed results. When I use the MD with them I just set the Gain Switch to 0db and the output level control to max and the system takes care of loud for me. With the DR07 that worked for really loud material [eg Mogwai] but to get any reasonable signal for not quite so loud stuff i had to set the Gain to the Low setting [22db] and play with the output level control. This worked fine for acoustic and moderately loud stuff but there was still some clipping on some recordings.. May take a whole to work out how best to use it but I'm happy enough to carry 2 spare 8GB sd cards instead of 20 Minidiscs.
The sound coming from the DR07 seems pretty good for such a small recorder. I noticed that you also included a sample MiniDisc recording of the same band. The MD seems to have a slight edge in treble response over the DR07. Yet the DR07 sounds much more lifelike.
Having just bought a Marantz PMD620, I'm looking forward to the day when I can pick up a set of binaural mics and a preamp and see how it does recording live shows.
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I ran the DR-07 for the very first time on Monday night, and I must say going line-in, the unit sure can take in a hot signal. I hit record, maxed the recording level, and the peak was never reached once. I did a post processing of a +10dB amplification though...even though it is unnecessary.
Does this mean I should go in through "Mic In" with low gain in the future?
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Still waiting on my DR 100. I wonder if the line level are similar. Good to have an idea about the DR-07 though
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I ran the DR-07 for the very first time on Monday night, and I must say going line-in, the unit sure can take in a hot signal. I hit record, maxed the recording level, and the peak was never reached once. I did a post processing of a +10dB amplification though...even though it is unnecessary.
Does this mean I should go in through "Mic In" with low gain in the future?
that was my experience too with Sound Pro Binaurals -> Sound Pro pre-amp> - line in. i haven't tried mic in yet because the internal mics seem to work so well.
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I ran the DR-07 for the very first time on Monday night, and I must say going line-in, the unit sure can take in a hot signal. I hit record, maxed the recording level, and the peak was never reached once. I did a post processing of a +10dB amplification though...even though it is unnecessary.
Does this mean I should go in through "Mic In" with low gain in the future?
I did a few tests of the line in levels of the DR-07 vs Edirol R-09HR. Not extremely scientific, but should work on an approximate scale:
| Edirol R-09HR | Tascam DR-07 |
| 10 | 3.75 |
| 30 | 5 |
| 40 | 6.25 |
| 50 | 8 |
| 60 | 9 |
| 70 (levels at 0dB) | 10 (levels at -5dB) |
So it seems that the DR-07 should be able to handle a hot signal... I still wouldn't go mic-in though, depends on your other equipment, I suppose.
-c