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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: tgakidis on March 17, 2009, 09:40:53 AM
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I have a FOB & Med Stand. I am looking to get a STURDY TALL stand for festival season. Any suggestions?
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my 13ft manfrotto works just fine, tipped with an umbrella and staked down.
which by the way are around 115 on b&h I looked when I seen the other 13' stand for sale here.
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Once you choose a stand, secure it with a ground auger.
Sold as 'heavy duty stakes' in the camping department. Just like the screw in dog chain anchors. Cinch the stand's leg x-bars down firmly to it with a strap (not a flexing bungee) and you're rock solid.
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I like my AEA 15 footer
Not too heavy and collapses down to just over 3 feet.
not air cushioned or with fancy locking mechanisms but it was (is) my first stand and has never let me down
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Just to clarify, I am down with securing the stand and all that. I am just lookin for suggestions on model numbers of Heavy Duty stands. Something that can handle the winds and weight of several sets of mics.
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Ted, knowing you... I think that this is what you have in mind. I think AKG is actually releasing a Gakidis signature model later this spring :)
(http://www.earthinpictures.com/world/france/paris/eiffel_tower.jpg)
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Good call... I was unsure if they had started releasing details on the accessory line yet. Thanks, Gutbucket!
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Ted, knowing you... I think that this is what you have in mind. I think AKG is actually releasing a Gakidis signature model later this spring :)
(http://www.earthinpictures.com/world/france/paris/eiffel_tower.jpg)
No comment, it's under development.
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Seconded for the A.E.A. stand. Goes up to 15' and is a tank. Expensive, but worth it; it's the only stand you will ever need for outdoor / open taping. I think that Sonic Sense still sells them for like $175 new; I picked mine up for $100 used.
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Shure S15A is a very sturdy mic stand
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/S15A/
I have a 13' bogen stand that works well. here is a knockoff for only $40
http://cgi.ebay.com/White-Lightning-Heavy-Duty-Light-Stand_W0QQitemZ120393404675QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120393404675&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50#ebayphotohosting
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I have the shure S15A. It is sturdy, but I hate the twist grip things.
I want to get steel. From an engineering standpoint steel is 3 times as heavy as aluminum, but it's 3 times as strong and 3 times as stiff, which means your mics don't bob around in the wind, which I think might help with wind phasing. Then I'll get my 20 year old friend to lug it for me.
Karl (wheres_jerry) has some big old beast of a stand he bought cheap off ebay. Dynatron or something like that, probably 17' for $17, and it weights 17pounds and barely fits in trunk of my sentra.
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My cheapo big aluminum stand (can't remember the make) flexes a good bit with heavy LD mics, but isn't too bad if I don't extend the topmost small diameter section and extend the others moderately, leaving a few inches in each instead of maxing any one of them to the stops. That leaves enough tube inside each section connection to stiffen it significantly.
Unfortunately, if the wind is gusting enough to sway your stand, it's also shifting the sound moving though that gusting air so much that you'll still get phasing even if you clamped to Eiffel's lightstand.
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If budget is not really a consideration, check with the folks at American Photographic Instrument Co (APIC but their website is http://www.x-tendtechnologies.com/ cause apic.com was taken). They can custom make pretty much anything you desire whether total overall length, collapsed length, number of sections or fitting size is most important to you. Some speculation on gearslutz that they made the Shure stands at one time but appear not to at the present.
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Thanks, and keep the suggestions comming guys.
My med. weight stand is the Manfrotto 3336 11ft
http://www.bogenimaging.us/Jahia/site/bius/pid/6780?kindOfProductCollectionRequest=productDetail&productCode=3336&productDescription=11%20FT%20BASIC%20LIGHT%20STAND&curBrandId=MAN&market=MKT3
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Thanks, and keep the suggestions comming guys.
My med. weight stand is the Manfrotto 3336 11ft
http://www.bogenimaging.us/Jahia/site/bius/pid/6780?kindOfProductCollectionRequest=productDetail&productCode=3336&productDescription=11%20FT%20BASIC%20LIGHT%20STAND&curBrandId=MAN&market=MKT3
Remind me to look at the # on my bogen at Claypool. It's the 13', and they're still one of the best I've seen/used.
JAson
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I want to get steel. From an engineering standpoint steel is 3 times as heavy as aluminum, but it's 3 times as strong and 3 times as stiff, which means your mics don't bob around in the wind, which I think might help with wind phasing. Then I'll get my 20 year old friend to lug it for me.
Thulsa Doom: Ah. It must have been when I was younger. There was a time, boy, when I searched for steel, when steel meant more to me than gold or jewels.
Conan: The riddle... of steel.
Thulsa Doom: Yes! You know what it is, don't you boy? Shall I tell you? It's the least I can do. Steel isn't strong, boy, flesh is stronger! Look around you. There, on the rocks; a beautiful girl. Come to me, my child...
Thulsa Doom: [coaxes the girl to jump to her death]
Thulsa Doom: That is strength, boy! That is power! What is steel compared to the hand that wields it? Look at the strength in your body, the desire in your heart, I gave you this! Such a waste. Contemplate this on the tree of woe. Crucify him!
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This is the best stand I ever used, hands down. I took it to 10klf and even during the windiest of shows it was amazing. The downside is that it is really heavy. There may be some plans to change the rollers on the base, but I have not looked into that recently. But this is a really high quality stand that is solid...
http://www.latchlakemusic.com/new_stand.html (http://www.latchlakemusic.com/new_stand.html)
http://www.latchlakemusic.com/micking_stand.html (http://www.latchlakemusic.com/micking_stand.html)
I know the owner. He really cares about quality. I have served a a tester for our kind of mic useage. The stands were really designed for studio use with an emphasis on sturdiness and quality. The locking mechanisms are excellent.
(I have no personal stake at all. I am just really impressed with the equipment.)
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Thanks, and keep the suggestions comming guys.
My med. weight stand is the Manfrotto 3336 11ft
http://www.bogenimaging.us/Jahia/site/bius/pid/6780?kindOfProductCollectionRequest=productDetail&productCode=3336&productDescription=11%20FT%20BASIC%20LIGHT%20STAND&curBrandId=MAN&market=MKT3
I've been using a manfrotto quicklock for a number of years and love it. Only reaches 11' max but the cam-locks hold tight with no fear of slippage ....hasn't failed me yet, even hoisting a set of C414's with 30" omni bar. It also allow for a variable footprint when setting up in tight quarters.
$125 at micsupply
http://www.micsupply.com/3364ql.htm
http://www.micsupply.com/standproducts.htm
...note: requires manfrotto mounting adapter if you don't have one (add $12-17)
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I am looking at this.....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/67808-REG/Avenger_A410B_A410B_Black_Light_Stand.html#specifications
Nice "lazy Leg" for adjusting to hill and theater inclines.
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I was wondering about those lazy leg contraptions. Is it basically a telescopic leg section? Anyone have experience using those things?
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http://www.adorama.com/SALSB13AC.html
That's the stand I used at Langerado last year and it performed great even with the strong wind gusts there. Its cool because you can put the stud in horizontally if you wanted to run mics coincident or something.