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Title: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on March 18, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
BJ & I are working together to see if there is enough interest in his actives mounting solution.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,118787.0.html

Please vote either way so we can get an idea of how many of us there are in the community.

Reply back with you caps, cable lengths, etc.
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: willndmb on March 18, 2009, 12:50:24 PM
if the akg active project comes to be i am interested - nice pic you posted too
otherwise i don't see myself ever getting cables for the 460/ck_x
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: grider on March 18, 2009, 03:20:32 PM
I'd buy one, but I don't think there are many users of this gear out there taping with it, so demand would be minimal
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 18, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
do we have any idea on cost?
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: Matt Quinn on March 18, 2009, 03:37:12 PM
Has anyone tried to fit the AKG lemos into one of NOLAFishwater's bars? The Schoeps lemo's fit in them, I imagine they are the same size. I realize BJ's bars are a little different, just wanted to throw it out there......
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on March 18, 2009, 03:46:12 PM
More info here include price and package  http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,118785.msg1587369.html#msg1587369
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 18, 2009, 03:48:15 PM
Has anyone tried to fit the AKG lemos into one of NOLAFishwater's bars? The Schoeps lemo's fit in them, I imagine they are the same size. I realize BJ's bars are a little different, just wanted to throw it out there......

the AKG lemos are slightly bigger than the schoeps - they don't fit in the KWON or Schoeps ORTF bar so I doubt they'd fit in the NOLA bars
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 18, 2009, 03:50:19 PM
More info here include price and package  http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,118785.msg1587369.html#msg1587369

sweet - i'm in for sure - sick sick sick
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: Matt Quinn on March 18, 2009, 03:51:28 PM
Has anyone tried to fit the AKG lemos into one of NOLAFishwater's bars? The Schoeps lemo's fit in them, I imagine they are the same size. I realize BJ's bars are a little different, just wanted to throw it out there......

the AKG lemos are slightly bigger than the schoeps - they don't fit in the KWON or Schoeps ORTF bar so I doubt they'd fit in the NOLA bars



Huh, I always thought there was just one size lemo connection. Oh well. At least it looks like y'all have a solid option here.  :)
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: jeromejello on March 18, 2009, 06:38:18 PM
interested, but not really into the whole line up of patterns... not really into the pricing either (since i wouldnt want the alternate spacings).

just my little 2 bits...
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 18, 2009, 06:50:57 PM
interested, but not really into the whole line up of patterns... not really into the pricing either (since i wouldnt want the alternate spacings).

just my little 2 bits...

the NOLA bars were offered around $75 a piece - there are def cheaper alternatives but for the quality and ease of use I think $150 is a steal
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: JNT on March 19, 2009, 03:27:56 AM
I might be interested. Saw the listing for the his Neumann bars earlier tonight and wondered if they could be make to work with the AKG actives.

Joe
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: EarlyMorningRain on March 19, 2009, 10:17:18 AM
hmm, showing interest. But my actives are ck93 caps (Blue Lines / SE300 body), and don't think there's too many of us out there......
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: goodcooker on March 19, 2009, 04:39:04 PM
Has anyone tried to fit the AKG lemos into one of NOLAFishwater's bars? The Schoeps lemo's fit in them, I imagine they are the same size. I realize BJ's bars are a little different, just wanted to throw it out there......

the AKG lemos are slightly bigger than the schoeps - they don't fit in the KWON or Schoeps ORTF bar so I doubt they'd fit in the NOLA bars

I used a Kwon bar when I had ck1x (lemo style) /mk46....it worked great  ???
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: BJ on March 30, 2009, 01:44:50 PM
updated the post here (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,118785.msg1587369.html#msg1587369) with final version

the set

(http://arkatechs.com/images/razorbar/set.jpg)

DINa with mics in mount

(http://arkatechs.com/images/razorbar/w%20mics.jpg)

closeup of arm attachments

(http://arkatechs.com/images/razorbar/attachments.jpg)

closeup of attachment in center piece

(http://arkatechs.com/images/razorbar/closeup.jpg)

bar without mics

(http://arkatechs.com/images/razorbar/Bar.jpg)

Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: manitouman on March 30, 2009, 02:12:05 PM
That's pretty slick! Put me down for a set.
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on March 30, 2009, 02:29:12 PM
Is it the picture, because there looks like there is some strain on the lemo's from the "bar pin".  Maybe this should enter from the top or bottom of the bar.

DINa with mics in mount

(http://arkatechs.com/images/razorbar/w%20mics.jpg)
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: BJ on March 30, 2009, 02:31:53 PM
Is it the picture, because there looks like there is some strain on the lemo's from the "bar pin".  Maybe this should enter from the top or bottom of the bar.

DINa with mics in mount

(http://arkatechs.com/images/razorbar/w%20mics.jpg)


there is, I was in a huge hurry, as I picked thes up at lunch, and set up, took pics, resized, uploaded, and posted all on lunch, while also finding time to eat.  The easiest way would just be to turn the knobs around and enter from the front.

edit:" also, with the ORTF, it would be even worse, so you would def want to enter from the front., NOS, it wouldn't matter at all
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: grider on March 30, 2009, 03:02:17 PM
that package is easily worth $150, nice work, and for reference just compare the cost of all of this gear with say a single configuration bar from Schoeps or, worse, DPA, they would cost twice as much for a single configuration bar
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: BJ on March 31, 2009, 02:03:55 PM
prices posted, DIN and DINa now part of set, M/S optional.  center bar is now the standard 20mm size instead of 3/4".

will AKG or MBHO be the next setup?  ;D
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 31, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
prices posted, DIN and DINa now part of set, M/S optional.  center bar is now the standard 20mm size instead of 3/4".

will AKG or MBHO be the next setup?  ;D

what is your target minimum order to get these going?


i am officially in for 1 set
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on March 31, 2009, 02:25:53 PM
Bj I will pm you tonight
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: BJ on March 31, 2009, 02:29:07 PM
prices posted, DIN and DINa now part of set, M/S optional.  center bar is now the standard 20mm size instead of 3/4".

will AKG or MBHO be the next setup?  ;D

what is your target minimum order to get these going?


i am officially in for 1 set

5 orders with a new setup, just to cover the costs of measurements, prototype, setup and materials.  after that, they can be ordered 1-2 sets at a time.

based on the replies (not the voting since i dont know who voted) it looks like you have it.
Grider, Ted, terrapinj, JNT, manitouman.

not sure exactly what configs you guys would want, but if noone wants the m/s, and you could settle on 3-4 attachments vs the whole 5 piece setup, it would speed things up and keep costs down a little.  I would do an intro price for the first batch of sets like I am for the Neumanns, just to cover the R&d etc, not to make any money.  the profit margin on these is VERY little even at full price, as I basically just wanted to get this out to people, and to get me a set of my own  :P
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: BJ on March 31, 2009, 02:30:03 PM
Bj I will pm you tonight

thnx
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 31, 2009, 02:33:11 PM
i don't think M/S is necessary for us - I personally don't need the omni bar but I will pay for it if the group wants them ordered

sick sick sick!
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on March 31, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
there is mo fig 8 cap so my vote is for din, dina & nos
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 31, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
there is mo fig 8 cap so my vote is for din, dina & nos

ORTF as well :)
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on March 31, 2009, 03:12:38 PM
there is mo fig 8 cap so my vote is for din, dina & nos

ORTF as well :)

May as well have all four.  Do you think the two different style capsules, cone vs tube, would have an effect the design, or is it all about the connection to the lemo?  My cards and omnis are cone and my hypers are the tube style.  Check out the actives mount options thread that chuck started recently for pictures of the two different styles.
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on March 31, 2009, 03:14:30 PM
there is mo fig 8 cap so my vote is for din, dina & nos

ORTF as well :)

May as well have all four.  Do you think the two different style capsules, cone vs tube, would have an effect the design, or is it all about the connection to the lemo?  My cards and omnis are cone and my hypers are the tube style.  Check out the actives mount options thread that chuck started recently for pictures of the two different styles.

shouldn't make a difference IMO - the lemo end is the only concern for mounting - the rest just fits into place - i'm assuming the 2 styles are equal length - did BJ have a cap when he did measurements?
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on March 31, 2009, 03:18:17 PM
I am sending him a cap and cable this week.
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: esteyes1 on March 31, 2009, 09:26:26 PM
and i will be communicating with him as well about dimensions etc.

neil - akg project monkeyboy
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: grider on April 01, 2009, 12:12:51 PM
I'll buy one, count me in
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: tgakidis on April 01, 2009, 12:18:52 PM
there is mo fig 8 cap so my vote is for din, dina & nos

ORTF as well :)

May as well have all four.  Do you think the two different style capsules, cone vs tube, would have an effect the design, or is it all about the connection to the lemo?  My cards and omnis are cone and my hypers are the tube style.  Check out the actives mount options thread that chuck started recently for pictures of the two different styles.

i'm assuming the 2 styles are equal length - did BJ have a cap when he did measurements?

Nope, different lengths.....
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on April 01, 2009, 12:28:36 PM
there is mo fig 8 cap so my vote is for din, dina & nos

ORTF as well :)

May as well have all four.  Do you think the two different style capsules, cone vs tube, would have an effect the design, or is it all about the connection to the lemo?  My cards and omnis are cone and my hypers are the tube style.  Check out the actives mount options thread that chuck started recently for pictures of the two different styles.

i'm assuming the 2 styles are equal length - did BJ have a cap when he did measurements?

Nope, different lengths.....

hmm i wonder if it will make any significant difference

which style is more common?
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: BJ on April 01, 2009, 02:42:45 PM
which caps can be different lengths?  if its just the Fig 8 it shouldn't matter, but if you can have different length card caps...we might have a problem. 
Title: Re: ATTENTION: AKG ck_x/mk46 Users
Post by: terrapinj on April 01, 2009, 03:06:15 PM
which caps can be different lengths?  if its just the Fig 8 it shouldn't matter, but if you can have different length card caps...we might have a problem. 

AKG has 2 physical styles of caps for the ckXx - cards and hypers and omnis can come in either style