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Gear / Technical Help => Post-Processing, Computer / Streaming / Internet Devices & Related Activity => Topic started by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on April 02, 2009, 10:02:21 PM
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I just ordered a new MB/CPU/RAM/PSU/HDD/Video Card and plan on installing Win7 Beta, Win XP MCE and Win2003 Server on it.
What order should I install the OS's in?
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you could always go win xp mce and run teh other two in VMWare (http://www.vmware.com/products/server/)
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you could always go win xp mce and run teh other two in VMWare (http://www.vmware.com/products/server/)
The plan is to run XP MCE as my main OS until Win 7 is officially out, and then switch over. I suppose I could start over fresh then.
I need to run Win Sever 2003 normally because I'm taking a class that requires it and I want it to behave normally.
From what I remember I should install from oldest to newest...so XP MCE, Win Server 2003, and finally Win 7.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Win Server runs great in a VM. We have numerous servers I use every day in a production warehouse management environment that run on VMs and they are great. It's even more desirable for a test environment where you will be playing with and breaking things. Makes going back much easier.
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Win Server runs great in a VM. We have numerous servers I use every day in a production warehouse management environment that run on VMs and they are great. It's even more desirable for a test environment where you will be playing with and breaking things. Makes going back much easier.
yup, vmware is rock solid, and is used in production the world over. I agree with phan, it is great if you are playing, b/c you can take snapshots and restore the snapshots if you do break something. I run vmware on our production servers at work, but I also have it on my desktop at home. vmware does wonders with allocating resources. I am not sure how much you know about vmware, but it is light years beyond any other virtual machine software i have tested. ESX is the best thing since sliced bread, but neither it nor esxi fit your needs right now, but vmware server should. even if you dual boot xp and 7, i would still do server 2003 in vmware instead of triple boot.
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Cool. I will have to try the VMware thing. I use VMWare on my Mac, but Windows on the Mac isn't exactly the same (at least when I'm trying to learn how to run it in a server enviroment).
I was thinking of running it anyway, and keeping my main OS install free from programs I don't use often (and programs I got from not exactly legal channels).
Can I run XP in VMware and use it to run Wavelab (since Wavelab apparently doesn't work in Vista/Win7)?
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Cool. I will have to try the VMware thing. I use VMWare on my Mac, but Windows on the Mac isn't exactly the same (at least when I'm trying to learn how to run it in a server enviroment).
I was thinking of running it anyway, and keeping my main OS install free from programs I don't use often (and programs I got from not exactly legal channels).
Can I run XP in VMware and use it to run Wavelab (since Wavelab apparently doesn't work in Vista/Win7)?
you guys are speaking over my head here but I'm having this problem and have been looking for a solution to the
wavelab>vista muckup so I'm gonna try and follow along. :)
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I would recommend running 7 and then VMing the other two OS'es.
Some folks have said that there is a Vista patch for WL5 although I have not seen it. If someone does have it PM me and i'll try it out and see if it works in 7 natively.
I've been running a few of the Beta builds of 7 and without hesitation it is a killer OS. There is a 7 thread where i've made a few posts about certain apps related to our hobby that work with 7.
ETA: Google is my friend. WL5 installed (Windows 7 build 7068) and works but I can't use the Open > File. For some reason it won't open the dialog window. I can though drag a file into the WL5 desktop and have it open from there.
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Right now any Windows 7 install you have will be based off the beta install and while I've heard and experienced nothing but good things about it, the beta does eventually expire. Once it does there is not a guaranteed way to migrate to the production version so it would likely mean a reinstall.
That said, XP will run fine in a VM particularly for something like Wavelab although you might see some issues if using something like a USB attached audio workstation or capture device. I don't have a lot of experience working with unusual peripherals through VM ware; it might be no problem at all. For simple work with .wavs .flacs and the like it will be fine. The other nice thing about VMWare is when/if you have to reinstall your base OS, migrating your VMs will just be a simple file copy then restart once you have VM ware reinstalled on the new host OS. One of the key benefits in a VM environment is the abstraction of the hardware. You could even move your VMs from Windows to Linux hosts or to other computers if needed.
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Right now any Windows 7 install you have will be based off the beta install and while I've heard and experienced nothing but good things about it, the beta does eventually expire. Once it does there is not a guaranteed way to migrate to the production version so it would likely mean a reinstall.
The current 7068 build is based off of the first build for the RC line. You CAN do an upgrade from previous builds without problem. I am using my Beta key although there are hundreds of thousands of them on the net and my product expires in a few weeks short of one year. 7 is supposed to go gold by September so even if you installed either the a beta or RC you still can upgrade to the final product when it is released. Additionally the files and setting transfer wizard is feature complete so there is NO worry about losing data either in an upgrade or a new install.