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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: jnorman34 on May 03, 2009, 01:14:43 PM
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ran across this on lynn fuston's site:
http://www.mic-w.com/
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doubtful
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How are these DPA clones?
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The company (BSWA) makes measurement mics, and are taking a nice step into audio gear.
I don't know the quality of the caps, I'm looking to get a 1/2" Nickel (electret) capsule to play with. These are worth looking out for. From the docs they seem to have Ni capsules (n series?), gold plated mylar (e, g?), and unspecificed (m).
I'm intrigued by their cardioid capsules as well...
Richard
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Looks like a DPA "China copy" which is not the same as a DPA clone. I am interested in seeing how well they fare. As they have imitated the shape of DPA they are now forced to be compared to DPA. That can be difficult.
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funny they have so-called omni's with port ventils!!! for real?
one mic is desgnated omni and the manual says supercardiod!!!
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looks like DPA capsule grid/vent patterns combined with earthworks/violet/jz-style bodies; wonder how they sound?
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looks like DPA capsule grid/vent patterns combined with earthworks/violet/jz-style bodies; wonder how they sound?
They're copying *completely* the DPA body design (ph48 adapter for 1/2" capsule). The other caps, 1" or 1/4" are put on with adapters I think.
Richard
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They are *not* clones - they are *copies* - and likely very low quality in comparison to the original.
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I hope they put more effort into making their mics than they did with their website.
Can't read half of the text because of misplaced pictures covering it. :P
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The company (BSWA) makes measurement mics, and are taking a nice step into audio gear.
I don't know the quality of the caps, I'm looking to get a 1/2" Nickel (electret) capsule to play with. These are worth looking out for. From the docs they seem to have Ni capsules (n series?), gold plated mylar (e, g?), and unspecificed (m).
I'm intrigued by their cardioid capsules as well...
Richard
They are crap dont waste your time. And yes I have checked them out as have a few of my other friends in the mic business they look like DPA mics but I can shape a turd into a DPA mic it does not mean it will sound like one :) Remember you may wish for an apple or an orange but you will only get a peach :)
Chris
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only get a peach :)
mmm... peaches...
Edit by BSkalinder: please post images of this type in the Sewer. Thanks.
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..da look perty...
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..da look perty...
Yep ask your self one question.. If they have been in business for 10 years why dont they have a distributor in the US or Canada? makes me think they tried and failed to find one a I know for a fact that approached a few of my friends in the business to distribute them and when samples were sent they were all severely lacking in quality.
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..da look perty...
Yep ask your self one question.. If they have been in business for 10 years why dont they have a distributor in the US or Canada? makes me think they tried and failed to find one a I know for a fact that approached a few of my friends in the business to distribute them and when samples were sent they were all severely lacking in quality.
24 carat gold too! ;) Like I said ...da look perty...
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..da look perty...
Yep ask your self one question.. If they have been in business for 10 years why dont they have a distributor in the US or Canada? makes me think they tried and failed to find one a I know for a fact that approached a few of my friends in the business to distribute them and when samples were sent they were all severely lacking in quality.
I think the prices are too high as well. The metal (Ni) diaphragm capsules range from $200-600. Compare to Japanese capsules (ACO-PACIFIC) at $600 or DPA for $1000 or more. Their other capsules are polymer, something like $50-100 (not sure whether gold or other coating). I may ask for a sample pair of the polymer ones, though. You never know, but at $100 each, it might be a viable option for binaural/htrf recording. I'm always looking for better capsules. Right now I'm using the Countryman B3 at approx $150 (pigtail) or $200 (XLR).
Richard
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Those shotguns look tasty. I wonder if I can get them for $100.00/pair. >:D
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Those shotguns look tasty. I wonder if I can get them for $100.00/pair. >:D
Still missing the AKGs? ;D 8)
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..da look perty...
Yep ask your self one question.. If they have been in business for 10 years why dont they have a distributor in the US or Canada? makes me think they tried and failed to find one a I know for a fact that approached a few of my friends in the business to distribute them and when samples were sent they were all severely lacking in quality.
I think the prices are too high as well. The metal (Ni) diaphragm capsules range from $200-600. Compare to Japanese capsules (ACO-PACIFIC) at $600 or DPA for $1000 or more. Their other capsules are polymer, something like $50-100 (not sure whether gold or other coating). I may ask for a sample pair of the polymer ones, though. You never know, but at $100 each, it might be a viable option for binaural/htrf recording. I'm always looking for better capsules. Right now I'm using the Countryman B3 at approx $150 (pigtail) or $200 (XLR).
Richard
If you get some capsules, let us know how they sound.
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They just sent me a price list for these mics and they are sending me a sample n241 mic that I will compair to my Nist calibrated measurement mic and we will see what we see.
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Cool, Chris. Let us know what you find out.
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Cool, Chris. Let us know what you find out.
I just got an email they said it would be sent to me after AES in Germany apparently they are going to be there.
Chris
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Bump...
Copy or not, I wouldn't mind giving these guys a run. A lot of interesting stuff (audio-wise) has been coming out of China in the last 5 years or so. Their website appears to have improved. The specs look alright for their compact cardioid and omni. 3-pin XLR / P48, although it doesn't look like it detaches from the capsule itself.
http://www.mic-w.com/html/products-cn255.htm
http://www.mic-w.com/html/products-cn201.htm
You can't look at these with DPA glasses on. ;)
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They just sent me a price list for these mics and they are sending me a sample n241 mic that I will compair to my Nist calibrated measurement mic and we will see what we see.
Am I missing something, or is a pair of those "N" series compact cards about the same price as a used set of the real DPA 402x? At those prices they'd better be darn close to the DPA originals they're copying, considering you could have new AKGs or Neumanns for the same or less.
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Where did you see prices?
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Where did you see prices?
The pricelist a few posts up ^^^ attached to Church's post. They now have a US distributor who I emailed about the compact microphone prices, which do not seem to be on the list.
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..da look perty...
... and when samples were sent they were all severely lacking in quality.
There's probably just too much lead, or at least in that paint job.
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anybody ever try these out?
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They look nice, but for the price I'm not sure I'd want to be the guinea pig!!
anybody ever try these out?
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Chris mentioned above that he was expecting a pair...I wonder if he ever got them and tested them out.
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i know this thread has some age. But i would like to know if anyone has given these a spin?
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I think NOLAFishwater owned/owns a pair of the omni's
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thanks. i sent a PM but havent heard anything back. maybe some others will chime in!
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MicW mics are imported in France by the same people than Schoeps.
http://www.areitec.fr/
http://www.areitec.fr/microphones-statiques.html
http://www.areitec.fr/micw-i436kit-microphone-de-mesure-classe2-produit-655.html
FWIW.
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so in a nutshell, I wasn't impressed with the sound or the specs. apparently the spl rating was not what was stated. This was an issue for me for onstage recordings. Even with running a -20db pad the and zero gain the mic was still overloading. Never used them on quiet sources, but for the money I would just look at getting the modular dpa microhpones.
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Good to know, thanks. High SPL is what i am looking for so if it couldnt handle on stage it will not handle the stresses i would put on them.