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Title: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Neilyboy on May 08, 2009, 09:32:06 AM
Hey there just looking for a cheap (preferably under $10) option to get my lightstand - http://www.amazon.com/Westcott-750-Photo-Basics-7-5-Foot/dp/B000NIKQ7Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1241789196&sr=8-1

to accept a 5/8" stereo t-bar. The lightstand has a 1/4-20 male stud on it now. Is there a cheap clamp or adapter that I can purchase to get this thing to work? I have found some out there for 20 bucks but I have a hard time believing that the adapter is going to cost me as much as the stand haha. I guess there is always duct-tape. Any suggestions are very much appreciated!

Neil
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Kush on May 08, 2009, 10:13:11 AM
MicSupply.com has what you are looking for:

http://www.micsupply.com/standaccessories.htm (http://www.micsupply.com/standaccessories.htm)

4th item from the bottom of the page

I'm sure other retailers carry similar items.
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Brian Skalinder on May 08, 2009, 10:26:58 AM
Not the cheapest option (though not terribly expensive in the grand scheme of things), but I think the best:

If your stand has a 5/8" stud (no threads) tip (some of which also include a 1/4"-20 thread on the end), consider a Bogen 5/8" stud | 3/8" male thread Rapidapter (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5357&is=REG&addedTroughType=search) and a 3/8" > 5/8" thread adapter (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=400109&is=REG&addedTroughType=search).  The Rapidapter makes for easy/swift on/off.

From the Amazon picture, it looks like your stand has a 5/8" stud + a 1/4"-20 tip, so this option should work.  A little over $10, but very convenient, IME.
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: KenH on May 08, 2009, 10:42:41 AM
There are adaptors that convert 1/4" to 3/8" and 3/8" to 5/8".   I've seen an all-in-one adaptor that covers all 3, but can't seem to find it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546490-REG/Manfrotto_by_Bogen_Imaging_014_38_014_38_Rapid_Adapter_.html
OR
Cheaper version ($7.95)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/271577-REG/Delta_21246_Rapid_Adapter_5_8_.html
PLUS top that with one of these 3/8->5/8 adaptors ($1.75):
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/232829-REG/K_M_21700_000_01_21700N_Threaded_Adapter.html

Cheaper do it yourself method (I had a similar issue with 1/4" male thread)
- cut off the 1/4" male threaded part (easy, alumunim cut)
- drill 3/8" hole
- cut off bolt or buy a length of 3/8" threaded rod
- either tap 3/8" threads or just insert rod into hole and secure w/ side screw or something.
- finally, top with a 3/8->5/8 adaptor.

Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Neilyboy on May 08, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
Thanks so much for all the links guys! I was looking for that micsupply link!

anyone think this would work?

http://www.eztruckaccessories.com/H3269X10X4.asp

Neil
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: flipp on May 08, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
Thanks so much for all the links guys! I was looking for that micsupply link!

anyone think this would work?

http://www.eztruckaccessories.com/H3269X10X4.asp

Neil


No, as pipe thread is very different than the pitch used for mic stands. You are looking for a 5/8-27 thread.

You need something like the micsupply adapter linked above or the TA1 from AEA/Wes Dooley. Current price is $12.50 so a little over your budget but it's my favorite adapter for going 1/4-20>5/8-27.
http://www.wesdooley.com/images/TA1.jpg
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Neilyboy on May 08, 2009, 11:14:19 AM
thats exactly what I am looking for flipp! can i order from their website. or is it phone orders from them?

I emailed them a quick request for a quote

neil
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: flipp on May 08, 2009, 11:30:18 AM
Depending on what t-bar you are using you may also need a locking ring/washer though my setup doesn't require one with TA1. 

$2 each http://www.wesdooley.com/images/AEA-LR.jpg
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Neilyboy on May 08, 2009, 11:33:32 AM
Thanks for the heads up flipp!
I should be good just ordered this cheapy t-bar

http://www.amazon.com/MY500-Stereo-Microphone-Attachment-Bar/dp/B0002ZO3LU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1241796769&sr=8-1

Neil


Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: su6oxone on May 08, 2009, 05:54:25 PM
I should be good just ordered this cheapy t-bar

http://www.amazon.com/MY500-Stereo-Microphone-Attachment-Bar/dp/B0002ZO3LU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1241796769&sr=8-1

Neil

That looks just like the T-bar I have, if it is, it's a great one.  8)
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: rokpunk on May 08, 2009, 11:13:17 PM
I should be good just ordered this cheapy t-bar

http://www.amazon.com/MY500-Stereo-Microphone-Attachment-Bar/dp/B0002ZO3LU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1241796769&sr=8-1

Neil

That looks just like the T-bar I have, if it is, it's a great one.  8)

Those are made by a company called On Stage. I think I pay like $4 ea for them as a dealer. Real cheap stuff, but it gets the job done.
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on May 09, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
I think the rapidaptor solution is the best.  You can leave it on your t-bar and setup is quick.  When you don't have to thread your stuff together in the field after arriving late, the extra couple of bucks for the quick set up more than pays for itself.
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: newplanet7 on May 09, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
I think the rapidaptor solution is the best.  You can leave it on your t-bar and setup is quick.  When you don't have to thread your stuff together in the field after arriving late, the extra couple of bucks for the quick set up more than pays for itself.
Seconded.
This is a great set up.
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u46/newplanet7/KM235BarAndRapidAdapter.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Neilyboy on May 10, 2009, 11:23:45 AM
I went ahead and spent the money on the manfrotto rapid and adapter haha.. Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

Total Shipped: $17.65

not too bad...

Neil
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: Brian Skalinder on May 10, 2009, 01:28:26 PM
And for those, like me, finding themselves using wider spacing with a narrower included angle to maintain a desired SRA while reducing off-axis reverberant sound, a jam nut + a 2nd KM235 yields a wide, flexible mount.  The KM235s can be adjusted to allow for any width from coincident to full 16" (wider, depending on the shockmounts / mics / included angle).
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: newplanet7 on May 10, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Nice!
I don't think I've seen pics of that before.
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: nathan_g on May 10, 2009, 11:39:44 PM
The 'Library' section on the wesdooley.com site is very nice.

http://www.wesdooley.com/aea/library.html

This one in particular...great info on mic placement/spacing.

"Basic Microphone Perspectives: A Review" 

http://www.wesdooley.com/pdf/BASIC_MIC_PERSPECTIVES_REVIEW_(JAES).pdf
Title: Re: What is a cheap option to get from 1/4-20 to 5/8"??
Post by: RobertNC on May 24, 2009, 07:41:53 PM

Seconded.
This is a great set up.
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u46/newplanet7/KM235BarAndRapidAdapter.jpg)

Damn, that photo pops up here so often I think you guys owe me some royalties.  LOL (j/k)