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Title: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: GWB on June 03, 2009, 01:55:18 AM
Hello All: I'm new and this is my first post.  I know VERY little about recording.

I'm going to a hard rock concert next week and want to record it for my own listening later.   Since recorders likely aren't allowed, it needs to be very small/discreet.  Also, since this is the only concert I'll ever record, it needs to be reasonably priced and simple to use.  I'd like to be able to convert it later (at a video store) to a regular CD to listen in my car.  Although I'll be recording in the crowd, the location will be very near the stage (second or third row).

What are my best options?  Is a decent recording even possible given it'll be concealed?  I need to get it fairly soon (i.e. at local store, not online). 

Thanks for all and any advice!
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: LEDZEPZOSO on June 03, 2009, 05:05:37 AM
If you are only going to do one show and with your time restraint you are better off trying to find a taper willing to tape the show for you. Maybe buy a ticket to the show.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: Belexes on June 03, 2009, 08:33:01 AM
From where you are sitting and given that this won't be an ongoing hobby, I agree with Led above. 
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: dorrcoq on June 03, 2009, 10:14:29 AM
Also, since this is the only concert I'll ever record... 

That seems odd...

Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: Belexes on June 03, 2009, 11:00:55 AM
Also, since this is the only concert I'll ever record... 

That seems odd...


Famous last words.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: GWB on June 03, 2009, 11:52:43 AM
Also, since this is the only concert I'll ever record... 

That seems odd...


Not sure why this is odd.  As a 48-yr old professional with a family, I haven't been to a concert in 18 years.  But I've always loved listening to Aerosmith while cruising around in my car.  They are coming to St. Louis next week, and I've mustered up a reason to see them by taking my family along for an RV trip.  Heck, I'm even going to meet (briefly) Steven Tyler and Joe Perry as part of an upgraded VIP ticket package.  Since they are around 60 yrs old, this may be the last time I ever get to see them live.  So I wanted to record it.  That's all - no sinister motive here.

Thanks to the first two posters who gave advice.  Unfortunately, I don't know any other tapers to ask, or I would definitely choose that option.  So ruling that out, are there any other decent options?  Do they sell anything that will work at Best Buy, etc.?

Thanks again!

Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: vanark on June 03, 2009, 12:13:16 PM
I don't think anyone implied your motives were sinister.  You are reading something into the comments that isn't intended.

I think you are better off posting in the Team Kansasouri thread over in the Team Boards section here (or something like that) to see if (1) it is already covered or (2) if not, try to find a taper willing to do an undercover job.

I think you are looking at a minimum or $300-$400 to get a decent sounding rig.  Can you get something for less? Yes, but it won't sound very good, or at least that is the opinion you are going to get here.

Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: Belexes on June 03, 2009, 12:16:50 PM
Aerosmith in St Louis?

I'd wager that will get taped.  There are tracker websites such as Traders Den, Jam to This, and Dimeadozen which host recordings.  You are in VIP near the front. I'd grab your favorite beverage and enjoy yourself considering you likely forked over an arm & a leg for the package.  Let someone already in the hobby take care of the audio preservation.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: vanark on June 03, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
Team St. Louis thread - http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,118648.330.html
Team Kansasouri thread - http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,119517.285.html

I think those are the most likely folks to get it covered for you.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: GWB on June 03, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
Aerosmith in St Louis?

I'd wager that will get taped.  There are tracker websites such as Traders Den, Jam to This, and Dimeadozen which host recordings.  You are in VIP near the front. I'd grab your favorite beverage and enjoy yourself considering you likely forked over an arm & a leg for the package.  Let someone already in the hobby take care of the audio preservation.

Thank you!  Sorry to sound dense, but by "host recordings", do you mean that I could possibly get them converted to a CD to listen to later?  If so, that does seem to be my best bet, assuming somebody will be taping that concert.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: anodyne33 on June 03, 2009, 12:31:09 PM
Aerosmith in St Louis?

I'd wager that will get taped.  There are tracker websites such as Traders Den, Jam to This, and Dimeadozen which host recordings.  You are in VIP near the front. I'd grab your favorite beverage and enjoy yourself considering you likely forked over an arm & a leg for the package.  Let someone already in the hobby take care of the audio preservation.

Thank you!  Sorry to sound dense, but by "host recordings", do you mean that I could possibly get them converted to a CD to listen to later?  If so, that does seem to be my best bet, assuming somebody will be taping that concert.

Absolutely. If it gets recorded and shared it will be in a format (mote likely FLAC) that you can easily convert to .wav files to burn to CD.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: dorrcoq on June 03, 2009, 12:34:18 PM
I didn't mean to imply anything wrong with your plan, just thought it was odd that you would want to spend that kind of money to tape once.  By the way, I'm 55 and hadn't been to a show in 8 or 9 years until I got my recording gear in June, 2006.  I still don't get out as often as some guys here, but I am to the point where I actively look for stuff to tape, whether that means touring acts, bar shows, or just free concerts in the park.  You do get hooked easily! :D
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: GWB on June 03, 2009, 12:58:01 PM
Team St. Louis thread - http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,118648.330.html
Team Kansasouri thread - http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,119517.285.html

I think those are the most likely folks to get it covered for you.

Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: Kindguy on June 03, 2009, 01:55:32 PM
Also, since this is the only concert I'll ever record... 

That seems odd...


Famous last words.

Haha check your wallet at the door.

For real.......I hope it all works out for you.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: sunjan on June 03, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
I think you are looking at a minimum or $300-$400 to get a decent sounding rig.  Can you get something for less? Yes, but it won't sound very good, or at least that is the opinion you are going to get here.

If I'd answer your question strictly, you could probably pick up a Zoom H2 for $130-150, and get a half-decent pull if you practice at home first.
Another idea would be to work out a loaner, if the local tapers aren't going to the gig, staying at home with their gear.
Or be slick and buy a recorder on trial, with the option of handing it back if you don't get hooked to the hobby :-)

But your best investment would probably be to buy an experienced taper a few beers and get a copy afterwards.
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: Belexes on June 03, 2009, 02:21:21 PM
Since they are around 60 yrs old, this may be the last time I ever get to see them live.

I wouldn't find that to be true.  I saw Ozzy Osbourne's "farewell" tour in 1992  ::)  In this day and age, if the band remain healthy, they will hit the road for the dollars.

I just saw Chuck Berry last Sunday, age 83.  :o
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: itook2much on June 03, 2009, 04:37:09 PM
Yeah, I saw the absolutely positively last tour for the Cure...in 2000.  ::)
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: dorrcoq on June 03, 2009, 05:24:39 PM
The Who still holds the "record" for farewell tours.  They've been doing it since December 17, 1982 at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto.  :D  By the way, that was the first thing I ever taped on a VCR.  Not sure if I still have the tape or not...
Title: Re: Best Simple Device For Recording a Single Concert?
Post by: Belexes on June 03, 2009, 06:36:37 PM
The Who still holds the "record" for farewell tours.  They've been doing it since December 17, 1982 at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto.  :D  By the way, that was the first thing I ever taped on a VCR.  Not sure if I still have the tape or not...

Yep, they set the standard.  If you don't have that Toronto show anymore, it's out on DVD.