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Title: DIN vs NOS
Post by: skotdee on June 03, 2009, 09:27:56 PM

Still trying to wrap my brain around different mic configs, I find myself using the 90 degree setups more often than not, not sure why, just seems right.

My question is, is there a time/place thats better to use DIN vos NOS, or vice versa? Seems like a small venue, bar or club, would be more condusive to the more narrow DIN setup, while maybe an arena or big outdoor stage setup might be more suited with the wider spaced NOS... Again though, its all new to me, wondering if anyone has any insight on the differences in spacing. My reasoning is simply based on how wide the PA stack spacing is.

thanks

Title: Re: DIN vs NOS
Post by: darby on June 03, 2009, 09:55:24 PM

someone posted this link a while back:
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Visualization-NOS.htm

kind of fun to play with

Title: Re: DIN vs NOS
Post by: sanaka on June 10, 2009, 06:36:47 PM

Another place for edification: http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/Microphone-University/Stereo-Techniques.aspx (http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/Microphone-University/Stereo-Techniques.aspx)

Peace

Title: Re: DIN vs NOS
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on June 10, 2009, 06:52:48 PM

What I've always heard is generally speaking ....

NOS is good for sub/wide cards  either onstage or relatively close to the sound source.  Not good for much else.
DIN  is good for cards in a section type environment
DINa is good for hypers in a section type environment
ORTF is good for cards  either onstage or relatively close to the sound source.  Not good for much else.
X/Y sucks anywhere.  :0)

Title: Re: DIN vs NOS
Post by: Kyle on June 10, 2009, 10:00:34 PM

I have experimented a bit with my cards and NOS, DIN and DINa all work very well, indoor and outdoor, FOB and in the section. DINa is probably my favorite - ORTF with a tighter included angle - great stuff with the mk4's. Ran NOS the other night for MMW outdoors FOB and the results are great.

Very solid, credible soundstage with great imaging from all three configs. For some reason it seems to me that NOS would work a bit better outside - wider pickup pattern meshing well with the lack of reflections - but I am not quite sure why I think that. Wide spacing, wide open spaces...  ;D

Title: Re: DIN vs NOS
Post by: Brian Skalinder on June 11, 2009, 12:39:03 AM

As usual, my spiel recommending Williams' Stereophonic Zoom (see sticky post at top of the forum).  It's not the be-all end-all, but does help provide an understanding of why one configuration sounds different than another, and provides insight into how (with plenty of guided experimentation in the field) one might address deficiencies one hears, change configurations to achieve a desired sound, etc.