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Title: question about recording from SBD...
Post by: phatdats on August 03, 2009, 05:17:45 PM
quick question...

I taped a show last week:
mics>V2>mini me(24/96)>r44
AND
sbd>r44(24/96)

I recorded 4 channels, all at 24/96.  the mics were coming into the recorder digital from the mini me, and the SBD was coming into the r44 analogue.

when i looked at the channels in vegas, the mic channels had a very spacious waveform representation, with many peaks and lows....

the SBD seemed like everything was cut off at a certain level, kind of like there was a hard limiter on it.  nothing was clipped or brickwalled, but it looked as if it had all brickwalled at some point like 10db before clipping point...

I didn't have the limiter on the r44... it was disabled...

question:  am i correct in assuming that the signal I got from the SBD went thru a compressor or something else before it got to me?  It was a although I was given an aux out, it was a digital board (not digi out, but rather a digitally controlled board, analogue output) and I am thinking that the outputs were assigned thru an onboard compressor or something before it got to the output stage...

thoughts?

thanks!!!!!

steve
Title: Re: question about recording from SBD...
Post by: boojum on August 03, 2009, 06:05:01 PM
From what you say it seems the SBD was compressed.  So?  It's not the end of the world and can still add to your mix.
Title: Re: question about recording from SBD...
Post by: datbrad on August 04, 2009, 11:59:11 AM
quick question...

I taped a show last week:
mics>V2>mini me(24/96)>r44
AND
sbd>r44(24/96)

I recorded 4 channels, all at 24/96.  the mics were coming into the recorder digital from the mini me, and the SBD was coming into the r44 analogue.

when i looked at the channels in vegas, the mic channels had a very spacious waveform representation, with many peaks and lows....

the SBD seemed like everything was cut off at a certain level, kind of like there was a hard limiter on it.  nothing was clipped or brickwalled, but it looked as if it had all brickwalled at some point like 10db before clipping point...

I didn't have the limiter on the r44... it was disabled...

question:  am i correct in assuming that the signal I got from the SBD went thru a compressor or something else before it got to me?  It was a although I was given an aux out, it was a digital board (not digi out, but rather a digitally controlled board, analogue output) and I am thinking that the outputs were assigned thru an onboard compressor or something before it got to the output stage...

thoughts?

thanks!!!!!

steve

Compression in the SBD is a technique to bring up everything evenly in the mix, and can also used to keep within a db limit (venue driven) to give a sense of "loudness" without peaking over the limit.

Your mics recording off the PA had more dynamics simply because of the distance and ambient space, so when blended with the SBD, it should make for a pleasing combination.