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Title: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: Brian Emerick on August 05, 2009, 04:30:51 PM
Also includes the HF20 which is the same except it has a hard drive.

I just got this:

(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs160.snc1/6000_101620357038_505622038_2629770_146484_n.jpg)

a month ago.  It's great so far, only shot a couple things with it but recently I took it out for a complete concert and got the whole thing.  Looked amazing in low light.  Here is a full concert torrent of Matt Nathanson, handheld with panning/zooming:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=259715

American Girl - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZSwCCM1vq4

Fall to Pieces - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCCbQdH15Sk

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/shadowravenz/vlcsnap-2009-07-28-14h40m49s156.png)


Also, here is some footage of my dog in normal lighting, higher quality:

http://files.me.com/brian.emerick/gf6xgg.mov

Password: "shadow"

I bought the Canon video light, and the Canon DM-100 external mic which I have not tried yet.
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: BlackLab on August 05, 2009, 08:00:37 PM
I borrowed an HF20 to film a concert and was nowhere close to stage and found low light performance awful. I shouldn't have been surprised as review indicated that would be the case and by size of sensor. Returned it and ordered an HF11 for $699 as an HFS10 was too $ and I didnt think performance justified twice the price
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: Brian Emerick on August 05, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
that's odd.  I was about 60 feet back outside in the dark.  Looks great.  Of course, the stage is lit.
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: nickee on August 08, 2009, 03:10:09 AM
I have one of these as well (the euro version). Would probably have gotten a HF100 (bigger sensor) if I could have found one. Have only taped one show in the dark yet and the camera really liked to over expose in P mode. Will try manual mode next time.

examples (this is not using the built in mics):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCZnZjKMAx4&feature=channel (auto exposure)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeWv9MPk6_4&feature=channel (same show, manual exposure at "-8")
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: Brian Emerick on August 12, 2009, 11:10:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBd-Zxw6iyI


Here is a shot of a small creek outside I took over the weekend....

Canon HF200 Daylight 1080p/24 with DM-100 Microphone (Shotgun) Water
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: nickee on August 24, 2009, 04:04:14 PM
I've now done a bunch of low light stuff with the HF200. Here's one made in TV - 25 mode (shutter 1/25). Slightly grainy but it there wasn't much light. Acceptable IMHO. Sound isn't from the camera (peluso ck21).

Wooden Shjips - For so long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVcnD-IphEg
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: Brian Emerick on August 24, 2009, 04:08:13 PM
exactly, it's a bit grainy but it's not a $1200 camera.  I think it's acceptable for the value.
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: Jerry Gash on August 24, 2009, 10:11:13 PM
Nice camera man, do you guys use the "cell phone trick" when you shoot in poor lighting conditions?  Not sure about the HF series as I have the HV series but apparently if you shoot in spotlight mode you don't get added gain.  The trick "tricks" the camera into thinking there is enough light and doesn't try to add gain to your footage.

Also, they are working on a firmware hack for the HV series that will eventually allow full manual control over all the function of the cam.
There has been some major progress on it over the last few weeks, just a matter of time now.


Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: tailschao on August 25, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
Also, they are working on a firmware hack for the HV series that will eventually allow full manual control over all the function of the cam.
There has been some major progress on it over the last few weeks, just a matter of time now.
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So, who might "they" be?
EDIT: Ah, ok, the magic of google helped there. First time I've heard of this. Holy sh!t that list of possible aims in the first post of the thead (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?p=167402) looks awsome.
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: roxia on September 20, 2009, 04:53:54 AM
About the Matt Nathanson concert that you filmed.

Isn't the white balance way of ?

I'm planing maybe to one of those cameras just to use for filming concerts.
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: Brian Emerick on September 20, 2009, 09:55:57 AM
No, that's how it looked.  The stage was bathed in a red the whole show.  Although it was my first time recording and I didn't use any manual controls - so it could be slightly off.
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: roxia on September 20, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
What's the difference between "Canon Legria HF200" and "Canon Vixia HF200" ?

Is Legria the PAL version and Vixia the NTSC ? Is it basically it?



If you compare HF100 and HF200 - the 200 looks way better 'in the dark':

http://camcorder-test.slashcam.com/compare-55786cae3887f996b755f44b5a381cc0.html


I think I will buy a HF200 in November :)
Title: Re: Canon HF200 Crew!
Post by: nickee on October 14, 2009, 01:22:29 PM
What's the difference between "Canon Legria HF200" and "Canon Vixia HF200"? Is Legria the PAL version and Vixia the NTSC ? Is it basically it?

Yes.

If you compare HF100 and HF200 - the 200 looks way better 'in the dark':
http://camcorder-test.slashcam.com/compare-55786cae3887f996b755f44b5a381cc0.html

Here's a recent low light show I did with the Legria HF200 (TV 1/25 mode). Pretty grainy but very watchable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGLSeXk2Y8