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Title: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: ollepeppe on August 06, 2009, 01:13:56 PM

Hi Guys,

Have bought a H4n

What mics are the best to use, the internal on H4n OR the Sound Core Stealth Cardiode I also have

Any who have experience ?

All the best,

Olle

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: sunjan on August 07, 2009, 07:49:12 AM

Hi Olle (from Sweden?),

Why not run both, for a 4tr comparison?!
It would be a nice favor to the community here...

But the obvious advantage of the Core Sounds is less handling noise and easier placement (stealth and better stereo imaging).
And I would guess that the specs (frequency response, max SPL etc) are better for the Core's too:
http://www.core-sound.com/cardioid/3.php

I'd be curious if you did a 4tr test next time you tape. Post your results here!

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: Kevin T on August 07, 2009, 08:39:41 AM

That would be great info. However AFAIK the H4n mics are Omni so its a bit apple to oranges

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: refrain on August 07, 2009, 10:29:51 AM

Hi,

H4n are cardiods, thus the XY angle...

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: Kevin T on August 07, 2009, 01:34:16 PM

.Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules ? The H2 is XY too but the capsules are definately Omni

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: sunjan on August 07, 2009, 05:45:17 PM

Quote from: Kevin T on August 07, 2009, 01:34:16 PM

Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules?

Yeah, I was looking for specs on the internal mics too, but the official site is totally devoid of anything useful. No max SPL, no freq response, no S/N ratio, no pattern plots!  ::)

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: dallman on August 07, 2009, 05:51:02 PM

Quote from: sunjan on August 07, 2009, 05:45:17 PM

Quote from: Kevin T on August 07, 2009, 01:34:16 PM

Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules?

Yeah, I was looking for specs on the internal mics too, but the official site is totally devoid of anything useful. No max SPL, no freq response, no S/N ratio, no pattern plots!  ::)

Both online manuals (H4 and H4n) state the mics are unidirectional condenser mics. Thus the XY pattern. They are not omnidirectional.

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: ollepeppe on August 08, 2009, 12:27:35 PM

Thanks for your answers

I will try to do a 4tr next time

it will be a bluesfestival at a small venue ( 300 ppl )

Suggestions about how to rigg?

BR

Olle from Sweden  :)

Title: Re: Intenal mics on H4n or Sound Core Stealth Cardiode
Post by: GroundHog420 on September 17, 2009, 07:05:38 AM

Hi! I was looking for some info on those internal mics. I haven't bought one of those units, but had a few questions about its' usefulness, considering I've got a lot more mileage out of a Microtrack and a pair of Church-Audio CA-11 cards than anyone would have had me believe. I'm confused by the specs in that manual for those built-in mics, though. Normally, I'm used to seeing something like "Frequency Response" or "20 - 20,000 Hz" or something like that. The only thing I see in the manual is "Gain +7dB _ +47dB". Ummmm.... I don't get what that is referring to, I guess...

Quote from: dallman on August 07, 2009, 05:51:02 PM

Quote from: sunjan on August 07, 2009, 05:45:17 PM

Quote from: Kevin T on August 07, 2009, 01:34:16 PM

Please show where Samson says Cardioid Mic capsules?

Yeah, I was looking for specs on the internal mics too, but the official site is totally devoid of anything useful. No max SPL, no freq response, no S/N ratio, no pattern plots!  ::)

Both online manuals (H4 and H4n) state the mics are unidirectional condenser mics. Thus the XY pattern. They are not omnidirectional.