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Title: Ever Run AB?
Post by: newplanet7 on August 30, 2009, 07:41:13 PM

Just wondering what people think of running this way for PA.
Also wondering if anyone has run cards AB.
Don't recall ever hearing a recording in this set-up.
Well besides omnis.

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: vanark on August 30, 2009, 08:11:33 PM

Yes - if I am doing a PA stack tape, I run A-B.  Here is a link to a John Mayer tape I ran A-B cards.  I also ran hypers A-B last night for ABB. 

http://www.archive.org/details/jmayer2008-07-12.ca11.flac16

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: newplanet7 on August 30, 2009, 08:20:34 PM

Hai Rory.
How far back is the ABB Band Tape?
Also what length of spread?
I'll have to grab it.
I will be 40ft? from the stage.
I usually am never that far back because the biggest name I tape is MMW.
However, I would think the only thing stereo that far back
is the room sound. No stage sound.
-todd

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: vanark on August 30, 2009, 08:32:09 PM

Quote from: newplanet7 on August 30, 2009, 08:20:34 PM

Hai Rory.
How far back is the ABB Band Tape?
Also what length of spread?
I'll have to grab it.
I will be 40ft? from the stage.
I usually am never that far back because the biggest name I tape is MMW.
However, I would think the only thing stereo that far back
is the room sound. No stage sound.
-todd

The John Mayer I was back about 40 ft.  About 25 ft. back last night at ABB.

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: page on August 30, 2009, 09:19:14 PM

Quote from: newplanet7 on August 30, 2009, 08:20:34 PM

Hai Rory.
How far back is the ABB Band Tape?
Also what length of spread?
I'll have to grab it.
I will be 40ft? from the stage.
I usually am never that far back because the biggest name I tape is MMW.
However, I would think the only thing stereo that far back
is the room sound. No stage sound.
-todd

correct, generally all you get is room sound in stereo and phase cancelation (which can give the effect of stereo) from the stacks. I've taped a couple things that are in true stereo in the field before, but not many.

I know someone here in Richmond that tapes A-B style (or close to it) almost exclusively with DPAs, spaced about 20cm or so. He swears by it. I've heard some tapes in large arenas done a similar fashion and it's different, but I wouldn't call it "bad" per se.

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: muj on August 30, 2009, 09:33:34 PM

running a-b with pa systems is okay and not that sensitive towards phase problems..most likely due to the wider dispersion of sound, than acousic non-amplified stuff.



just do it

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: newplanet7 on August 30, 2009, 09:45:43 PM

Thanks fellas.
I figured you'd be able to shed some light.
I mostly get enjoyment out of taping smalle acts where
location is unlimited.
I've taped MMW about 10 times maybe.
I haven't been this far back except for 2-22-08 in portsmouth NH
However I ran din and it smoked.

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: willndmb on August 30, 2009, 11:23:06 PM

lots of dmb stack tapes are ab

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: newscane on September 01, 2009, 10:51:39 PM

Quote from: willndmb on August 30, 2009, 11:23:06 PM

lots of dmb stack tapes are ab

I've been running A-B the last two, maybe three years.  My Tampa tape from this year sounds pretty good, I think, considering how far back it was.  I don't think A-B vs DIN would have made much of a difference in my case.

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: Chomps on September 02, 2009, 10:38:28 AM

Quote from: willndmb on August 30, 2009, 11:23:06 PM

lots of dmb stack tapes are ab

I ran A-B the last DMB show I taped and it came out great. Very full sounding.

When I use to my the SP and CA mics I would ways run A-B.

Title: Re: Ever Run AB?
Post by: run_run_run on September 02, 2009, 12:47:56 PM

I like to go XY for stack taping