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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: su6oxone on October 05, 2009, 07:53:29 PM
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Besides the Schoeps windscreens, what are some good alternatives? Basically 19mm or 20mm sized. I searched but didn't come up with much besides the DPA 0896 that I don't love because they're so scratchy and I don't want to risk scratching my new mics with them over time. The windtech 1200 are too loose and the 1300 are too tight. Anyone using any other windscreens that fit well and are affordable?
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I don't think the DPA UA0896 will scratch your mics. FWIW, I mainly used UA0896 indoors because I found the Shure A81WS more effective outdoors.
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Thanks for the reply Brian, but when I briefly owned the 0896s, it seemed that they were very coarse and scratchy, and required a bit of force to push them on the mics (since they're 19mm screens and the Schoeps I think are 20mm). Maybe I should give them another try though... anyone have a pair for me for cheap? :P
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Wind tech 1300's are the correct fit. They are snug but that iis the way you want them. I use them without any problems and they are priced the way windscreen should be, $5.80 through Markertek.
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May have been lost in my last post. If they're for outdoors, the Shure A81WS are tough to beat...unless you spend $$$ for a proper basket / windjammer-type outfit.
I haven't used them first-hand, but I find it hard to believe the Windtech 1300 are effective for anything beyond a light, indoor HVAC breeze. They just look way too thin. More like foam pop screens to my eye.
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I should have mentioned that I was looking for indoor purpose screens. I also use the big @$$ Shures for outdoors (and love them). The 1300s are too small and the 1200s are too large, I know because I own several pairs of both. Guess I'll try the 0896 again. :P
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I own a pair of CCM 4's and just bought 6 pairs of 1300's. I am sliding them on my mic now as I type. Yep, they are snug but they fit. If you want a loose fit put your fingers inside and stretch them a bit.
Is there a reason you are against having a snig fit? It only takes me about 20 seconds to get them on.
BTW., I also use them for my 84's 140's 460's and MXL 991's. They fit on all of them. On the AKG's they slide right on. Also, if after you put them on, just leave them on. There really is no need to take them off unless you use them on a grand piano.
Another cheap way to get more windscreen coverage is to use the 1300 and a LD screen together. This works great for outdoor windy situations.
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This may be a silly question, but...why not the B-5s?
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May have been lost in my last post. If they're for outdoors, the Shure A81WS are tough to beat...unless you spend $$$ for a proper basket / windjammer-type outfit.
I haven't used them first-hand, but I find it hard to believe the Windtech 1300 are effective for anything beyond a light, indoor HVAC breeze. They just look way too thin. More like foam pop screens to my eye.
I'll second that one.
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Actually, the protection from the wind is on the tip of the screen, where it belongs, and is around 1 inch thick. However, that being said, unless you are under a shed, if there is any significant wind I would put more protect on your mic.
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Not all windscreen foam is created equal... I find the windtech stuff is not very "open" compared to the Shure. And... the windtech's I have do not leave air space around the capsule - they hug it.
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Not all windscreen foam is created equal... I find the windtech stuff is not very "open" compared to the Shure. And... the windtech's I have do not leave air space around the capsule - they hug it.
True!
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Actually, the protection from the wind is on the tip of the screen, where it belongs, and is around 1 inch thick.
Maybe I'm missing the intended point above but... Generally, the more directional the mic, the more sensitive it is to wind. And it is important that the wind not cause pressure differences between the front of the capsule and the vents. That is perhaps another reason why maintaining a common air space around the capsule is desirable. So having lots of foam on the tip may not be enough.
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This may be a silly question, but...why not the B-5s?
B5Ds? Just price really, otherwise I love them.
I own a pair of CCM 4's and just bought 6 pairs of 1300's. I am sliding them on my mic now as I type. Yep, they are snug but they fit. If you want a loose fit put your fingers inside and stretch them a bit.
Maybe I'll give them another try, thanks for the suggestions everyone, guess it looks like I'll try the 0896 and 1300s again and try to get a pair of B5Ds as well. 8)
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B5Ds?
I mean the plain old B5, available for $18/ea from Posthorn, in a variety of colors (http://www.posthorn.com/S_pops.html#b5) (though I've never seen any but grey).
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I mean the plain old B5, available for $18/ea from Posthorn, in a variety of colors (http://www.posthorn.com/S_pops.html#b5) (though I've never seen any but grey).
Thanks Brian, I didn't realize that they were different (or rather, I didn't realize that B5s existed). I think the ones I used to own with the CMC64 set were the B5Ds, but these look like they would do the job as well.
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I've used the plain B5s before. Worked just fine for me indoors.
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Just found out that the B5s are the ones included in the CMC64 stereo sets... so those are exactly the ones I was looking for, so thanks!
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This may be a silly question, but...why not the B-5s?
B5Ds? Just price really, otherwise I love them.
I own a pair of CCM 4's and just bought 6 pairs of 1300's. I am sliding them on my mic now as I type. Yep, they are snug but they fit. If you want a loose fit put your fingers inside and stretch them a bit.
Maybe I'll give them another try, thanks for the suggestions everyone, guess it looks like I'll try the 0896 and 1300s again and try to get a pair of B5Ds as well. 8)
True, but the front of the mic is where direct wind can effect the diaphragm to a much larger degree, the side is indirect and on SDC the diaphragm is often not exposed at all. Usually the back plate is protected with a covering of plastic or allow with small holes drilled into it.
For indoor use the small type of windscreen usually takes care of any HVAC problems.
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I ended up ordering a pair of black B5 windscreens from a Schoeps dealer, at $18/each it wasn't too painful. :P
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I ended up ordering a pair of black B5 windscreens from a Schoeps dealer, at $18/each it wasn't too painful. :P
I have a pair of them but don't use them too often due to the fact that they are fragile. When putting them on your mic make sure you use the plastic frame. Never use the foam or you will seperate the foam from the screen making them useless. Also, take extreme care when storing them. Any type of pressure can cause them to fall apart.
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I have a pair of them but don't use them too often due to the fact that they are fragile. When putting them on your mic make sure you use the plastic frame. Never use the foam or you will seperate the foam from the screen making them useless. Also, take extreme care when storing them. Any type of pressure can cause them to fall apart.
Maybe you're thinking of the B5D? The B5 don't have a plastic frame, they're just foam.
At any rate, I used my old B5s all the time and didn't need to treat them particularly carefully. They were quite robust for the couple/few years I used 'em.
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my mistake.
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I wrap mine in reticular foam. You can buy 4 square for $20 and rubber band your own windscreens
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Depending on the application, I really like my B1 windscreens. It's basically good only for keeping smoke out since it's really thin, but that's pretty much all you need indoors unless your under a fan in which case I'd go with the B5D or Shure A81.
http://www.posthorn.com/Sbutton04.html#table2 (http://www.posthorn.com/Sbutton04.html#table2)
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I use my UA0896 for most indoor applications as well as outdoors if there is no breeze. Worked fine for me and I've used them for awhile now.