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Title: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Matt Quinn on October 07, 2009, 10:35:39 AM
Looking for something like this for this weekend...if I run the caps without windscreens, will bumping the fabric transmit right to the capsules?

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/3804860317_d82ee0b6dd_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: su6oxone on October 07, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
Can you clarify why you are not going to use windscreens but instead lay some sort of fabric over the mics?  Is this a stealth job?  I would think if a fabric is rubbing over the surface of the mics that could potentially cause some loud noise being picked up by the mics.  You could probably test this out at home if you can simulate the situation.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Walstib62 on October 07, 2009, 10:46:50 AM
They look like mics in mourning.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Matt Quinn on October 07, 2009, 10:49:09 AM
I'll use screens if I have to, but I am just trying to keep it as low profile as possible.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: page on October 07, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
I'll use screens if I have to, but I am just trying to keep it as low profile as possible.

Indoor taping you could probably cut smaller squares of fabric that then get wrapped around the caps instead of going for a general draping if you need to change the color (say from grey to black) or obscure the shape. My generalized question is, how much will the fabric look out of place? In a giant crowd of 10k+, draping fabric can work, but the smaller the crowd, the less effective it is as a concealment device because security will more likely be closer (physically) and be able to see the differences and what it is.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: flipp on October 07, 2009, 10:59:25 AM
my personal favorite is shadecloth though it is fairly stiff so it doesn't "drape" as readily as some other options
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: su6oxone on October 07, 2009, 11:00:26 AM
I'll use screens if I have to, but I am just trying to keep it as low profile as possible.

Kangol.  'Nuff said.  ;)
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Matt Quinn on October 07, 2009, 11:09:03 AM
My generalized question is, how much will the fabric look out of place? In a giant crowd of 10k+, draping fabric can work, but the smaller the crowd, the less effective it is as a concealment device because security will more likely be closer (physically) and be able to see the differences and what it is.


Decent sized crowd, a couple thousand. The idea is that the stand will be between a couple people in a relatively dark environment that is occasionally lit up pretty brightly, running at head height. I feel like the profile of a stand will stand out more than something like the picture above.

I'll use screens if I have to, but I am just trying to keep it as low profile as possible.

Kangol.  'Nuff said.  ;)


Last resort.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: orechall on October 07, 2009, 11:13:25 AM
that pic looks like our setup from the gorge this summer.  speaker cloth is what you want to use.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Matt Quinn on October 07, 2009, 11:28:31 AM
that pic looks like our setup from the gorge this summer. 


It is. :)


Speaker cloth? Off to Google, thanks!
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on October 07, 2009, 11:35:05 AM
Man that was fun.   ;D

that pic looks like our setup from the gorge this summer.  speaker cloth is what you want to use.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: mfrench on October 07, 2009, 11:40:37 AM
any solid fabric will stand out as solid fabric when lit up with venue / stage lighting, reflecting it, or lighting up from it.

Black lace - (or appropriate color for whatever circumstance - ie: when in a sea of tie dyes,...).
it allows the light to pass thru it (non-reflecting) while still obscuring.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: sparkey on October 07, 2009, 11:58:57 AM
black, acoustically transparent, speaker fabric...dunno where you'd buy it....
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: su6oxone on October 07, 2009, 12:06:49 PM
black, acoustically transparent, speaker fabric...dunno where you'd buy it....

You can find almost anything on ebay:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m38.l1313&_nkw=speaker+fabric&_sacat=See-All-Categories (http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m38.l1313&_nkw=speaker+fabric&_sacat=See-All-Categories)
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: SmokinJoe on October 07, 2009, 12:33:39 PM
Personally I think you ought to look around the house and decide what to sacrifice.

A piece from an old black t-shirt is pretty acoustically transparent, non-reflective, and readily available.

The really nice lace black teddie your woman's got would work probably be slightly better technically, but do you want to destroy that?  (He thought making his mics sexy was more important than making me sexy...)
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Matt Quinn on October 07, 2009, 12:36:07 PM
LOL Joe.  ;D

I may tool on over to the local craft store & see what is kicking about....
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Dr.FOB on October 08, 2009, 06:36:03 PM
The fabric store is a goldmine.
Not only can you find remnants of the material you are speaking of, but they also carry that faux fur which makes such wonderful dead rat covers...
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: Scooter123 on October 08, 2009, 10:52:06 PM
Typical product is "reticular foam" in quarter or eighth inch sheets, used for speakers and some windscreens.  It is an open cell foam which really looks like dead coral skeletons, very porous, but cutting wind and letting in sound.  It is what I line my stealth hat in.
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: puffpuffpass on October 09, 2009, 10:15:54 PM
Hello i,ve run FOB schoeps, and we have used a black t shirt
or some  black silk fabric from walfarts, might even find some thin black fabRic in the ween section of walfarts, tapes came out fine,,good luck...PPP
Title: Re: Fabric to lay over mics FOB?
Post by: johnw on October 10, 2009, 11:06:29 AM
To answer the first question - if you don't use windscreens, yes the fabric rubbing on the capsule will be picked up.