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Title: Using right-angle cables to facilitate ORTF setup?
Post by: jnorman34 on November 16, 2009, 12:19:06 PM

hi guys - i am about to buy some new cables, and am considering getting right-angle connectors at the mic end to facilitate an easier ORTF setup.   i am using km184s, and when i do ORTF, the cable connectors at the rear interfere with each other, meaning i have to either elevate one mic using a spacer, or tilt one mic up/one mic down, to get a proper ORTF.  i was thinking that by using right-angle connectors, i could get them into proper ORTF without tilting or spacers.  is that correct?  anybody have a photo of that kind of setup they could post for me to see?  thanks.

Title: Re: Using right-angle cables to facilitate ORTF setup?
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on November 16, 2009, 01:04:45 PM

I wish they made right angle xlr>xlr adapters like they have straight xlr>1/4" and xlr>rca.  They would be handy.

Title: Re: Using right-angle cables to facilitate ORTF setup?
Post by: Roger Gustavsson on November 16, 2009, 01:20:12 PM

You will probably need a raiser for one of the mic clips.
(http://www.twin-x.com/groupdiy/albums/userpics/mikrofoner%5B1%5D.jpg)
The microphones in the picture are 200 mm long.
Here another picture where you can see the right-angle Neutriks.
(http://www.twin-x.com/groupdiy/albums/userpics/normal_chopped_Nakamichis.jpg)


Roger

Title: Re: Using right-angle cables to facilitate ORTF setup?
Post by: KenH on November 16, 2009, 03:15:26 PM

I don't think it's possible to get ORTF w/ the mics on the same horizontal plane w/ KM184's, even if you have right angle XLR's, though I'd be curious to know for sure.

Only way to tell is to set the mics up that way (110 deg/17cm), and measure to see how much room there is on the connector end.

I use 1" PVC pipe cut to KM184 length to play around w/ various setups rather than risk damage to the mics. 

Title: Re: Using right-angle cables to facilitate ORTF setup?
Post by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on November 16, 2009, 05:57:23 PM

Wanna make me a pair?  I'll be yer best friend.   ;D

Title: Re: Using right-angle cables to facilitate ORTF setup?
Post by: Roger Gustavsson on November 18, 2009, 02:31:58 AM

My cut-down Nakamichis are 113 mm long, the Neumann KM184 seems to be 110 mm. It should be possible to run them in ORTF configuration as long as you use a spacer for one of the mic clamps. The cables will the run nicely along the stand. I have made a drawing of my Nakamichis.


http://www.twin-x.com/groupdiy/albums/userpics/ORTF_for_113_mm_long_microphones.pdf

Without a spacer for one of the mic clamps, the microphone may not be longer than about 63 mm even with right-angled XLR connectors.



Roger